I've installed a number of ped facilities in such speed limits. In South Glos we are just about to install a 700 operating MOVA. This may go some way to reducing costs (less loops, less ducting) although you will still be faced with HFS costs. Anthony Sharp=20 Engineer (Traffic Signals)=20 Highways South Gloucestershire Council=20 Broad lane, Yate BS37 7FY=20 Tel: (01454) 86 3605=20 Fax: (01454) 86 3757=20 Find out more about the work of the Highways Section at: www.southglos.gov.uk/highways =20 -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alistair.McIntyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 15 September 2006 16:16 To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Puffins/toucans on 50mph roads I have been asked to pose this question by colleagues who are looking into the possibility of installing a puffin or a toucan on a road with a 50mph speed limit. We are led to believe that there are no plans to reduce the 50 limit. Has anybody installed such a crossing on a 50mph road? We think the cost of anti-skid would be pretty high as would the cost of ducting for the Speed Assessment loops. The crossing would be on a very busy single carriageway road at a point used by lots of schoolkids, as well as by others throughout the day. Alistair McIntyre Senior engineer, traffic signals -- This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the persons addressed. If it has come to you in error please reply to advise us but you should not read it, copy it, show it to anyone else nor=20 make any other use of its content. West Sussex County Council takes=20 steps to ensure e-mails and attachments are virus-free but you should carry out your own checks before opening any attachment.=20 ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it from South Gloucestershire Council are confidential and intended=20 solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error=20 please notify the South Gloucestershire Council=20 Postmaster at the address below. This footnote also confirms that this email message has=20 been swept for the presence of computer viruses. postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ********************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug