In terms of ordering new equipment and replacing damaged equipment this would be easier with option A. Incidently our main supplier is Thermotor - and they supply a lot. However, thinking this idea though further, is there likely to be a problem in the busier pedestrian areas of restricting visibilty too much? We don't want to have to fit repeaters as the norm. Also should the restricted view/louvre include the red man as we don't normally louvre red traffic aspects? We've had numerous problems with PNI especially when refurbishing sites originally designed for farside heads. As a matter of course on planned work we pre-mark the poles before the signal company attends site and although time consuming we have fewer problems. Unfortunately this does not help with knock downs when the signal company simply refit as they think correct. Peter Heath Senior Assistant Engineer Greater Manchester Urban Traffic Control Tel: 0161 247 3162 Mobile: 07876 218272 ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact internet.administrators@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with any queries. ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug