SORRY for the delivery of the earlier incomplete e-mail - this is the complete version (you can 'bin' the one from earlier today - which included all those libellous statements ...... only joking!) - Howard Saffer **************************************************** From recent correspondence on the TCUG list, many users will no doubt be aware that we (Sheffield City Council) have been investigating various means of restricting the angle of viewing of Pedestrian Nearside Indicators (PNIs) at signalled junctions, where visibility of these signals from one crossing through to another (read-through - or see-through, as you will) can be a serious problem. I suspect this may be even more of a problem for pedestrians who are unused to Puffin crossings and are initially looking for a far-side signal. After discussion and developments in the last two weeks - this e-mail is intended as an update for all users. Preamble - our experience of PNIs in practice is that the spread of light output is excellent (limited reduction in intensity) up to +/- 45 degrees from axis; and that although intensity falls away beyond this angle, the PNI remains clearly visible in most circumstances up to about +/- 80 degrees from axis (this may depend on the manufacturer?). I don't know how this compares with the technical specification and type approval requirements for these units. Due to this wide angle of view - which is no doubt related to DfT requirements (for a wide angle of viewing), alignment of the PNI at many junction sites is extremely problematic without causing read-through to pedestrians using other crossings - and this is being recognised as a serious issue in relation to Road Safety design and audit. 1. After discussions with a local signal installation company about various ways that we might overcome this problem, we have arranged for this company to install a metal grid 'inside' some PNIs to act as a sort of louvre. This 'louvre' has the effect of restricting the viewing angle on 'only one side' of the PNI. In effect the viewing angle is reduced down to +80 degrees through to -45 degrees (i.e. we almost completely cut off about 35 degrees on one side). The grid can be installed either way round - to restrict viewing to the left or right hand side of the PNI. Whilst the brightness of the signal is unaffected, the grid must affect the light output from the PNI due to the reduction in the surface area of viewing (due to the metalwork in the grid). 2. The louvre is very effective in what it does, however restricting the angle by 35 degrees in insufficient to overcome the orientation problems of many PNIs. As a result we feel that although this technique is definitely helpful, unless at alternative grid which further reduces the angle of viewing from one side (down to say 10 or 20 degrees) could be produced for this application - we will continue to have problems of PNI alignment at these sites. 3. Last week we invited Suku Phull of DfT to Sheffield to look at a typical problem site. This clearly demonstrated the problems, and showed that the device we had installed was effective in helping to overcome this problem - even if it was not a total solution for these situations. I believe that Suku now recognises this problem, and understands that the design of PNI for this type of junction arrangement does need to be addressed. I also understand from Suku that, on consideration of the issues, he has no problem with us continuing with this trial as long as we continue to monitor the situation (I suspect that this is NOT the same as saying that the trial has DfT approval). If other users would like to try the same or a similar technique, I would suggest that you contact Suku at DfT concerning this before proceeding (I would also be interested to be kept informed - so that someone can be aware of how widespread these problems are perceived to be). 4. I understand that there is an EITAC AG8 (signals) meeting today (Wednesday) - involving DfT (Suku Phull); representatives of Siemens, PEEK, TSUK (Microsense) and AGD; TCUG (and others?) - and that PNI issues are on the Agenda for this meeting. I spoke to Peter Hutchinson (AGD) and Mark Pleydell (TSUK - and Chair of this group) at length yesterday concerning these issues and both are now well informed of the problems and the need to develop solutions for users. I pointed out that retrofit solutions are likely to be required at some sites - and this may influence the development of potential solutions. I anticipate feedback from this meeting and any developments arising in due course. 5. In discussion with AGD - who are the main source of these units (as I understand that they supply PNIs for PEEK and Siemens under license) - we explored possible ways forward. Two options are likely:- a) Reducing the angle of view - symmetrically on axis - down to say 30 or 40 degrees overall (i.e. +/- 20 degrees from Axis) b) Restricting the angle of view just on one side of the Axis (down to say +80 / -10 degrees) I can see advantages of either approach - but I feel my preference would be for the latter - option 'b' (above) - but I would be interested to hear the views of other users. I understand that AGD are now positively looking at this issue in development - and would like to adopt the approach of producing a unit to an Appendix of the main specification for PNIs - to meet these specific requirements (for junctions). The timescales for prototypes could apparently be weeks rather than months (according to AGD). 6. My colleague David Key (who is currently on leave) and I have already received a fair number of comments from users in other authorities with similar problems on site. In order to take this matter forward (perhaps even 'push' this forward?) - I would be interested in feedback from other users about the issues raised above, whether they have similar problem sites (and if so, how many PNIs may be affected) - and any preferences about options 'a' and 'b' above. You can do this via this the TCUG list - or by direct e-mail as you prefer. Sorry for the long e-mail - but I hope you (or your Road Safety advisors?) have found this information useful. Regards Howard Saffer Traffic Signal Design Group DEL - Development Services Sheffield City Council Tel: 0114 - 273 - 6154 Fax: 0114 - 273 - 6182 Mailto:howard.saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:howard.saffer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> The information in this email is confidential. The contents may not be disclosed or used by anyone other than the addressee. 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