Julian The new 'Puffin Good Practice Guide' says ... 'To ensure that a pedestrian demand will always be accepted by a controller, even if the associated kerbside detector (if fitted) is inactive when the PB is pressed, configure the controller so that a pedestrian demand without the associated kerbside detector active will be accepted but latched...' Regards Tanya This email together with any attachments, may be confidential and the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender of this email immediately, delete this message and note that you are not permitted to print, copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Email communications maybe subject to interception by third parties or possible data corruption. URS Corporation Limited accepts no responsibility of liability (including in negligence) for changes made to this email or any attachments after transmission from URS Corporation Limited. "Smith, Julian" <Julian.Smith@ame ymouchel.com> To Sent by: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" tcug-bounce@freel <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ists.org cc Subject 22/08/2006 15:13 [TCUG] Re: Pedestrian Kerbside Detection Please respond to tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxx g Peter, With the expanding use of nearsided signals, I'm keen to find out a bit more info. Do X-Flow have a webpage and are these detector approved to TR2507? Judging by the photos it would seem that we'd need many units to make up the 2.4x2.0m area required under the specification. Something that might rule them out on cost compared to overhead detection. Using a couple on each crossing point may result in pedestrians being unable to insert a demand without providing some special conditioning allied to the call cancel facility to cater for conditions where the mats are not occupied but there being a requirement for a demand. Julian Smith Traffic Signal Engineer AmeyMouchel (Area 9) -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: 22 August 2006 2:21 pm To: TCUG Subject: [TCUG] Pedestrian Kerbside Detection For information. In light of the on going problems with kerbside detectors, I now have a total of 24 X-Flo detector pads installed; 16 around one traffic signalled junction and 8 at two puffin sites. 8 more units are about to be installed at two new sites within the next month. So far they have proved very reliable and at a similar cost to an overhead unit plus installation, they appear to be a very cost effective solution, even more so due to the reduction in maintenance calls, ladder H&S issues etc. For more information about the X-Flo detector pads, please follow the attached link to Dave Key's brilliant web site, were I have posted some pictures etc. http://lightnup.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bbe0588933e959f829816dbdb923 ffda&page=2 Also, the FORUM contains details and some things to look out for during installation. Forum topic link: http://lightnup.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4.0 Peter Peter Jones Principal Traffic Systems Engineer Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254 Fax: +44 (0) 151 922 4514 Sefton MBC - UTC 7th Floor Balliol House Balliol Road Bootle L20 3NJ This message is intended for named addressees only and may contain confidential, privileged or commercially sensitive information. 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