[TCUG] Re: Pedestrian Kerbside Detection

  • From: Tanya_Soar@xxxxxxxxxxx
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  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:44:09 +0100

Julian

The new 'Puffin Good Practice Guide' says ...

'To ensure that a pedestrian demand will always be accepted by a
controller, even if the associated kerbside detector (if fitted) is
inactive when the PB is pressed, configure the controller so that a
pedestrian demand without the associated kerbside detector active will be
accepted but latched...'

Regards

Tanya


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Peter,

With the expanding use of nearsided signals, I'm keen to find out a bit
more
info. Do X-Flow have a webpage and are these detector approved to TR2507?

Judging by the photos it would seem that we'd need many units to make up
the
2.4x2.0m area required under the specification. Something that might rule
them out on cost compared to overhead detection. Using a couple on each
crossing point may result in pedestrians being unable to insert a demand
without providing some special conditioning allied to the call cancel
facility to cater for conditions where the mats are not occupied but there
being a requirement for a demand.



Julian Smith

Traffic Signal Engineer
AmeyMouchel (Area 9)



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From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Peter Jones
Sent: 22 August 2006 2:21 pm
To: TCUG
Subject: [TCUG] Pedestrian Kerbside Detection



For information.

In light of the on going problems with kerbside detectors, I now have a
total of 24 X-Flo detector pads installed; 16 around one traffic
signalled junction and 8 at two puffin sites.  8 more units are about to
be installed at two new sites within the next month.

So far they have proved very reliable and at a similar cost to an
overhead unit plus installation, they appear to be a very cost effective
solution, even more so due to the reduction in maintenance calls, ladder
H&S issues etc.

For more information about the X-Flo detector pads, please follow the
attached link to Dave Key's brilliant web site, were I have posted some
pictures etc.

http://lightnup.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=bbe0588933e959f829816dbdb923

ffda&page=2

Also, the FORUM contains details and some things to look out for during
installation.

Forum topic link:   http://lightnup.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4.0

Peter




Peter Jones
Principal Traffic Systems Engineer

Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254
Fax:     +44 (0) 151 922 4514

Sefton MBC - UTC
7th Floor
Balliol House
Balliol Road
Bootle
L20 3NJ






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