I know it's not a roundabout, but CSS did a report titled a review of signal-control roundabouts in 1997. One result was that there was a substantial increase in accidents (66%) at times when the signals on roundabouts were switched off. Since all other factors remained constant at these roundabouts, the conclusion was that it was the "part-time" effect which led to the accident problem. They quote that this finding is consistent with growing anecdotal evidence that part-time signals in the OFF state lead to driver confusion, possibly because they become distracted, misled by road markings, or simply because they misread signals which are OFF as being at green. My view is that a junction would be more confusing than a roundabout when the signals are OFF. Regards Carole Probert Traffic Signal Design Team Leader AmeyMouchel (Area 9) Tel: 01905 683219 Featurenet: 7969 3219 Mobile: 0774 871 2946 -----Original Message----- From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Giles, Shamus (Capita Symonds) Sent: 17 July 2008 12:51 pm To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCUG] Part-time signals at priority junctions (not roundabouts) We=20have=20a=20number=20of=20junctions=20which=20were=20priority=20T-junc= tions=20which=20have been=20signalised=20due=20to=20residential=20developments.=20=20The=20ques= tion=20has=20been asked,=20can=20these=20junctions=20(without=20ped=20facilities)=20be=20rec= onfigured=20to run=20part-time?=20=20 The=20reasons=20given=20are=20a=20bit=20vague=20but=20there=20is=20a=20fee= ling=20that=20the signals=20cause=20unnecessary=20delay=20when=20not=20too=20busy,=20but=20i= t=20is=20more=20to=20do with=20a=20general=20backlash=20against=20the=20proliferation=20of=20signa= ls=20I=20think. 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