[TCUG] Re: 'One-Can' Crossings
- From: mervyn.hallworth@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:56:16 +0100
Yes we are, and in fact have been since long before the pelican came out in
1969! There is in fact nothing new about them (except the name - which of
course started out fairly recently as a joke!).
They use the standard signal sequence to traffic, and the standard far-side
sequence to peds (as given in TSR&GD), so as I see it they are perfectly
legal and do not require authorisation. Theoretically, you might violate
the on-crossing detector spec if you were to use these (on anything other
than Puffin & Toucan), but if you use fixed clearances you should be OK.
Having said that, from a discussion had with Suku from DfT last week, it
would appear that the main reason for us (Leeds) making extensive use of
One-cans rather than Puffins in our city centre (namely: excessive timing
variability which works to no-ones advantage in UTC situations) is under
serious review - there appears to be a good chance that we be given advice
(in the form a TAL) which allows us to substantially reduce the variability
(i.e. clearances after green man down to something more like 'width / 1.2'
rather than those given in TAL2/95). So watch this space!
Mervyn
Leeds 2466750
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Can anyone tell me whether they are using the 'One-can' crossing, i.e. a
Toucan crossing without the Cycle aspect? Are they legal and/or was
approval required?
Ian Ellis
Plymouth City Council
01752 307801
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