[TCUG] Re: BV 165 Submission
- From: Dick Andrews <RAndrews@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:02:31 +0100
It might be possible to lay a small fillet of "bitmac" to bring the road
surface up to kerb level for small excedances of 6 mm.
I agree that zebras should be included.
To me "as apprpriate" can be interpreted as you wish. I interpret it to mean
that it is not appropriate to have a bleeper where crossings are in close
proximity or where there are parallel ped phases, but it is appropriate to
have both at mid block crossings where there is a known deaf blind usage.
Dick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bull Peter [SMTP:Peter.Bull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 10 July 2002 12:43
> To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [TCUG] Re: BV 165 Submission
>
>
> I think the 1999 Guidance is fairly clear on these issues. The drop kerb
> diagram (Figure 1c p14) states that flush is the "Preferred carriageway
> surface level" and the " Minimum carriageway surface level" is "Not
> greater
> than 6mm" below. So you would need to try and lay stone kerbs flush and if
> any part was more than 6mm higher then it would not be compliant. This
> doesn't look good for Sheffield's compromise agreement with our disability
> group for a 12/13mm upstand - we will drop to 0%.
>
> In a number of places the guidance refers to the need to provide the wide
> band if the tactile paving colour doesn't contrast sufficiently with the
> footway colour - so that would still apply if you chose a non-red
> conservation area tactile colour which is too close to your footway
> colour.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wheatley,Graham (Environmental Services)
> [mailto:Graham.Wheatley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 09 July 2002 12:34
> To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [TCUG] BV 165 Submission
>
>
>
> Peter
> A few more points for you to raise with DfT
> 1. We have quite a few crossings with old stone kerbs, which not flat.
> Also
> it is very difficult to lay a surface to 6 mm, especially if laid by hand.
> How many reading should be taken along the length of dropped kerbs and at
> what spacing? How many readings above 6 mm will be allowed, if any? 2. The
> guidance notes recommend a 150 mm border around red tactile surfaces, when
> there is a lack of contrast with surroundings. Does this apply to
> conservation areas where the tactile surface is
> not red?
>
>
> Graham Wheatley
> Senior Projects Engineer.
>
>
>
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