[tccrockets] Re: Some suggestions on our web presence.
- From: Chris Attebery <chrisattebery1971@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tccrockets <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:32:02 -0700
Norm,
I understand the anti-facebook stance. All I'm suggesting is that the
existing tccrockets web page be simplified and cleaned up so that the
existing email, launch sign up and T Shirt sign up list are easier to find.
I have seen a lot of questions on where to find these links on the email
list and on TRF.
I think that the existing mailing list and facebook page can be separate
but equal. The email list is great for in depth discussions. The Facebook
page is a better place to share photos. I don't think anyone wants 60+
pictures posted to the email list. I also think the existing Facebook page
could be a bit more usable. That's all.
Chris
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Norm Newlon <nnewlon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No Jimmy, you are not the only TCC flier who does not use Facebook.
>
> I hope that the TCC web site is not "improved" so much that it is no
> longer usable by the non-Facebook crowd!
>
> -Norm Newlon
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Jimmy Franco <Aldocyber3@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I do not use Facebook,
>> and do not plan on using it within the short term future.
>> This will add to this discussion...
>> Not sure if TCC is 99.9% FB users or not,
>> maybe I am the .1%???
>> I have enough s#!+ to follow at work without adding
>> something that I do for fun.
>> I don’t want to have my nose pointed at my phone all the time
>> and it seems to me that is what happens when people become FB users.
>> TCC Chat works for me. And I know there is a wealth of amenities that come
>> with FB but really not that interested in it.
>> But I am just a old grouchy man [image: Smile]
>> Just kidding and sorry for the rant, but just giving some input on this
>> subject.
>>
>> Jimmy F.
>> TRA 12524
>>
>> *From:* James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:19 PM
>> *To:* TCC chat <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *Subject:* [tccrockets] Re: Some suggestions on our web presence.
>>
>> Thanks Chris,
>>
>> 1. Just "Like" the page and you will get notifications. For the sidebar
>> link, I was planning an app for that (it can also show you who is online
>> for example and you can do chat as needed). We can certainly add a TCC app
>> (if you're up for the challenge) but the Group page would mean we'd have
>> little to do with the Insights feature (for example Insights showed me the
>> #1 thing people like is pictures/photos to keep engagement, video top of
>> the list. So yes, we can add a group, but the App is the best way to do
>> this (and we have our own app id). Finally, we do have the mail chat to
>> discuss and we'd like to keep our discussions on our chat (and some people
>> don't use FB). If we move all of this to FB then some people just won't
>> participate - so finding the balance is key. Having an app FYI could also
>> post FB messages to our chat (which keeps everyone informed) so the app is
>> probably the best technology for this... do you or Sean want to sign up for
>> an FB app?
>>
>> 2. We can fix that (again an app can change the layout as well).
>>
>> 3. Our current total reach (from Insights) is already over 2500 people!
>> We have to be careful to distinguish between members and reach - members
>> are people who post (like on our page or on our chat list) - reach is the
>> transitive closure of that (friend of friends). This is how we got all the
>> additional people and this is also how we get more people to the launches
>> (it worked well as we can see we have more flyers and spectators)... it
>> does get the word out.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Chris Attebery <
>> chrisattebery1971@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> The main differences that I see are:
>>>
>>> 1. I have to search for Tripoli Central California when I want to see
>>> the TCC page. There isn't a quick link on the side bar like the other
>>> rocketry groups I follow. I can also see when when someone posts to a group
>>> by looking at the sidebar.
>>>
>>> 2. When I go to a group page I can see all of the posts to that group
>>> immediately. On the TCC page you have to click on the "Posts to page" to
>>> see other members posts. It's more obscure and less user friendly.
>>>
>>> 3. The NAR group has over 2500 members. I don't think we'll ever exceed
>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From your link:
>>>
>>> "Usually the main reason for having a Facebook Group is to have a place
>>> where you *encourage discussion* among the members of the group.
>>> Facebook Groups are for community building within the members. They are a
>>> great place to have people ask questions that the group will discuss."
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:54 AM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> FYI, I spoke to some of my friends at Facebook. They checked out I
>>>> setup the TCC Pages and it has a dedicated application ID.
>>>> The open group has a lot more limitations, especially from the insights
>>>> functionality. Also, groups are limited in how many members
>>>> you can have and the ability to post messages. Is there some
>>>> functionality missing from the current TCC Page? Let me know; we have
>>>> the technology! Also, what can you not post to FB - you should be able
>>>> to (facebook.tcom/tccrockets)
>>>>
>>>> BTW, lots of folks on the TCC chat come from FB ... I've had over 40
>>>> new members in the last month!
>>>>
>>>> Some stats below:
>>>>
>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Chris Attebery <
>>>> chrisattebery1971@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First off, please take all of my comments as CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> First off, are we looking to grow the club? That's an honest question.
>>>>> It seems to me that TCC is in the Goldilocks zone right now, not too
>>>>> small,
>>>>> but not so big that the core members can't enjoy the launches too. I've
>>>>> been to ROC launches where you were lucky to get more than one flight a
>>>>> day. LUNAR's Moffett launches are like that too. October Skies was a great
>>>>> launch and part of what made it great was the fact that while there was a
>>>>> constant flow of rockets being launched there didn't seem to be a line to
>>>>> get on the pads for most of the weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we're looking to get the word out and grow the club I have a couple
>>>>> suggestions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I see a lot of questions on TRF about TCC's launches. David Robb,
>>>>> myself and a couple others try to fill in the blanks, but maybe we should
>>>>> try to make some official announcements there when we can. I'd be happy to
>>>>> handle it. I think TRF will attract more fliers than any other source. The
>>>>> people there are already rocketeers and they have a strong membership.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Can we change the Facebook page from an entity to a group like
>>>>> AeroPAC, LUNAR and ROC have? I think it would generate more interest if
>>>>> prospective members could ask questions and current members posted
>>>>> pictures
>>>>> and discussed their projects there.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I've seen a lot of comments that people don't seem to be able to
>>>>> find the information they are looking for on the tccrockets website. There
>>>>> are a ton of links on the main page and I think it could be more
>>>>> intuitive.
>>>>> I'm not a web designer, but I'd be willing to take a crack at updating it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let the beatings begin...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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