if you plan on using new studs a pipe wrench works good Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:55:43 -0700 From: mechmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: how do you get the thingee's out of the case To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx That's exactly how I would explain and and how I get the studs out as well. In a pinch I have used Vice Grips. sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Have you thought of two nut jam method. Uh how do explain this. Run one nut on, run another nut on. Tighten them together. Screw out the inner nut. Will remove a stud everytime. Mark or Will may have a better way to explain to a VW nut how to use the jam nut method to remove a stud. I just thought every VW nut knew how to use nuts for studs. Or is that a VW stud using nuts. Anyway, you get the meaning. Trey Jung <treyjung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: got a 1600 case that I am bumping into all the time b/c it has the rods sticking out of the case that the cylinders slide onto (heads bold on to them I think too)..... is there a secret to getting these things out of the case. ( I want to put the case on a shelf but these things make too wide to fit... I tried a pair of pliers but they seem to be really in the case. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself wherever you are. Mobilize! http://www.gowindowslive.com/Mobile/Landing/Messenger/Default.aspx?Locale=en-US?ocid=TAG_APRIL