[tcb] Re: Battery Charging With Fuel Injection

  • From: kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 21:52:20 -0700 (PDT)

  HA! .01 amps. My ass probably generates more than that instatic electricity. 
  Yeah, I'm probably good.  
  Thanks again. 




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From: David Schwarze <dschwarze@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 11:38:21 PM
Subject: [tcb] Re: Battery Charging With Fuel Injection

You're welcome - it's the least I could do for the guy who tracks     down all 
of the best LED lights for us!  Here's some simple power     numbers for you.  
Your alternator puts out on the order of 50 amps     while a solar trickle 
charger puts out on the order of 0.1 amps, or     1/500th of the power of the 
alternator.  So yes, I would say that it     is not strong enough to hurt 
anything.

-David

On 6/5/2011 11:02 PM, kelly dosch wrote: 
  Well that makes sense. Thank you for your time and your         well thought 
out answer. 

>  I was hoping somebody might say a solar trickle charger         wouldn't be 
>strong enough to hurt anything, but I don't know         squat about 
>electricity. I swear, the more I study it the more         complex and 
>confusing 
>it becomes. Not to mention, it can be         fairly mean when handled wrong. 
>
>  Thanks again. 
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From: David Schwarze <dschwarze@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sun,               June 5, 2011 9:55:49 PM
>Subject: [tcb] Re: Battery Charging With Fuel Injection
>
>David does in fact drive a fuel injected bus but it doesn't             have a 
>computer (EMP-proof, oh wow!).  However, David knows             enough about 
>electronics to realize that a solar trickle             charger is not going 
>to 
>affect any part of the FI VW's             electrical system to the extent 
>that 
>an alternator would and             therefore should be completely safe.  This 
>is assuming that             the charger is regulated and will not raise the 
>battery             voltage above what the alternator would (about 14V).
>
>Keep in mind that what the manual says is by necessity             painting 
>with 
>a very broad brush.  Would I have a gas             station hook up their 
>100-amp wall-powered quick charger to             my FI bus's battery without 
>disconnecting the cable first?              No way in hell.  But a solar 
>trickle 
>charger?  Should be no             problem at all.  Also keep in mind that the 
>VW engineers             were a pretty smart bunch and they were not going to 
>design             a computer for an automobile that was so fragile that it 
>can             
>be damaged by really small variations in voltage.  If that             were 
>not 
>true you would not have 30+ year old busses running             around with 
>their original electronics.  Give them some             credit.
>
>Of course I am just one person with one opinion, just like             Bill 
>Gmail.  And I only stated it because I was asked.  :-)
>
>-David
>
>On 6/5/2011 4:47 PM, Bill Gmail wrote: 
>Does David drive a fuel injected bus?  I do and will                 follow 
>the 
>factory recommendation. No chargers for me                 unless the battery 
>is 
>disconnected per the manual. 
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>>On Jun 5, 2011, at 2:42 PM, David Schwarze <dschwarze@xxxxxxxxxx>             
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>>wrote:
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>>I don't want to guarantee that a solar charger                   will not 
>>damage 
>>your computer, but if it were my bus I                   would have 
>>absolutely 
>>no qualms about it, even if it                   were a higher-power charger. 
>> I 
>>have charged many                   batteries while installed in vehicles 
>>with 
>>computers                   and have never had a problem.
>>>
>>>-David
>>>
>>>On 6/5/2011 12:06 PM, kelly dosch wrote: 
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>>>>  It says in  my                                                     manual 
>>>> to 
>>>>disconnect                                                     the battery 
>>>>before                                                     charging or it 
>>>>will                                                     
>>>>fry the Fuel                                                     Injection 
>>>>computer                                                     or something. 
>>>>
>>>>  Does anybody know                                                     if 
>>>> that 
>>>>would be                                                     true even with 
>>>>a                                                     
>>>>tiny solar trickle                                                     
>>>>charger? 
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>>>>  

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