What year model is Murray. I think he has the extended lip on the fender wells doesn't he. That's the late fender well and it has more room. ________________________________ From: Denis <coocoo@xxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 8:31:02 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers Murray has 185 60 15s. I don’t know if that adds anything to the discussion. From: Julie Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:00 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers Yes Sonne is a '60. Um, I stole all of the running gear from my '66. I know my tranny is a freeway flyer and I do still have my gear reduction boxes. As for the size of nuts, being a girl I don't know big from small. On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:52 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sonne is a 60 model, right? Early bus has no lip on the fender well and much less space between fender and the brake drum than on the 64-67 busses. Anything bigger than stock is not easy to get in there. It's possible to go slightly bigger than stock 6:40X15 but it isn't easy to mount the wheel on the brake drum. Just not enough clearance with the fender. And if you have a big nut tranny in it the brake drums are a bit wider than the original small nut tranny and that also uses up space. And I do hope you are going to run a big nut tranny cause you are going to take forever to get to Shasta if running the gear ratios in the small nut. > > > > ________________________________ From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> >To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 6:30:35 PM >Subject: [tcb] Re: BFGs vs. Grabbers > > >Yes Sonne is the DC. But I know someone who is on this list that has Grabbers >on his Bus and he does not remember having trouble getting them on and Shasta >guys use them and they all have Splits. > > >On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:05 PM, sammie smith <bugcollections@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >Which bus is Sonne. If the DC, yep, you have trouble fitting tires much >larger >than stock under the fender wells of a split bus. Something you have to >consider; unless of course you wish to cut out the fender wells, in which case >you will be banned permanently from all things splitty. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Julie <julie.hey.ho.lets.go@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Sun, April 7, 2013 3:33:02 PM >>Subject: [tcb] BFGs vs. Grabbers >> >>I have been looking into buying the tires for Sonne. Some Shasta guys say >>Grabbers and some say BFGs. I have Grabbers on Wieder (zebra) and love them! >>The BFGs are smaller than the Grabbers but have better load rating. BFGs D-8 >>ply >>and Grabbers C-6 ply. I love how the Grabbers look and fear the BFGs won't >>look >>as tough. Grabbers 27/8.50R14 (216/76R14) BFGs 195/74/R14 (195/75R14) BFGs >>are >>1.41" smaller in diameter/.83" smaller in width/4.43" smaller in >>circumference/.71" shorter in sidewall height. Currently my Grabbers >>(borrowed >>from Wieder) are not fitting in on the rear of Sonne. My metal guy blames the >>WW >>metal pieces being off, I am not so sure of that. So maybe BFGs will fit >>without re-doing the metal work. Grabbers are cheaper and I imagine will >>look >>tougher being that they are larger and will give Sonne more clearance. I am >>thinking of staying with Grabbers. What do you guys think? >> >>