Not all Jap. Americans were suspect; only those on the West Coast.
JJM
On 12/29/2016 6:46 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
Discrimination means judging somebody on their race, religion, gender, or national origin.
In this case:
All Jews were judged to be danger to the state in Germany.
All Americans of Japanese ancestry were judged to be a danger to the state in the USA.
All German soldiers were judged to be Nazi war criminals. 3 million German soldiers were sent to forced labor camps in the Soviet Union after the war ended without even being given a trial.
Were these things right or wrong? You can't say that one was justified and another was not.
Obama has ordered drone strikes that have knowingly murdered hundred's of innocent civilians. Does that make you and I murderers? If you are a father of one of the children who were murdered by Obama then the answer is yes. That's why I moved to another country that has no military and doesn't engage in wars.
Accusing somebody of a crime against you does not excuse you of crimes against them.
I am defending nobody. All of the parties involved were equally guilty including own own country. To enter a conflict and think that you will not be hurt is just plain stupid.
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 4:48 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
DR,
And you served in which branch of the military?
Most German soldiers were drafted and they didn't want to be
soldiers in the first place but had no choice.
Doesn't matter in this conversation.
This was a ruling that applied to all German soldiers at the
very beginning of the trials, whether they were accused of
anything or not.
Where is the citation? I don't find what you say at all.
I find this:
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government
or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
international law, /*provided a moral choice was in fact possible
to him*/."
Unless you come up with a citation to show what you say is true,
we will not accept it as true.
And it's NOT discrimination! It's not there. *ALL* German soldiers
weren't found guilty at all at the the War Crimes Trials.
73
DR
That's just how people think. It's called discrimination. Many
times it's wrong but other times it can save your life. The
tiger might not eat you but...
I don't blame Jews, Nazis, communists or myself for being what
they are.
My solution to conflict is to avoid it. When you go looking
for trouble you should not be surprised when you find it. When
you hit somebody you shouldn't be surprised when they hit you
back. This one of the things I learned from my martial arts
training. Even if you win a fight you still take some damage.
Like the "Yes but you should see the other guy!" joke.
Communist Jews tried to take control of the German government
like they did in Russia when they were less than 1% of the
population and were disliked and distrusted to begin with.
What in the world were they thinking?
A lot of innocent Jews died, along with 55 million other
people, and a few Jewish bankers became very wealthy.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 8:53 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust
Experiments
"But at the Nuremberg trials and afterwards Jews said that
a Nazi soldier could not claim innocence because he was
only following orders.
[Second Part] They said that every German was guilty for
the actions of other Germans. If so then every Jew is also
guilty."
The Second Part isn't true. The Nazi soldiers who
followed orders would know what they would be doing and
could refuse.
Every German citizen did not know what the Nazis were
doing, especially in the Jewish concentration camps. They
could never be automatically guilty.
Similarly, every Jew could never be automatically guilty.
73
DR
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