DR
That was interesting about the History Channel and it look truthful and OK to
me.
We shouldn't assume that everything RR posts is always wrong. He is the most
prolific and does keep the action going and gets attention for his self praising
self.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2016 3:21 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
No, it was a link from the History Channel. They don't do the best job on
history.
73
DR
On Dec 30, 2016 12:53 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR
I hope you were not referring to the link which I thought was great and said so?
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2016 12:34 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
You said ALL. That doesn't say "All".
Apologize to this group for misleading us, and then posting this link to
support your misunderstanding.
Perhaps a "reading comprehension" course would be helpful?
73
DR
On Dec 30, 2016 9:33 AM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/japanese-american-relocation
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 9:57 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
You only answer what you want to answer. You haven't given me a citation on
your statement: "This was a ruling that applied to all German soldiers at the
very beginning of the trials, whether they were accused of anything or not."
Your statement that all Americans of Japanese ancestry is also untrue, my
longtime friend, Dr. Katashi Nose, of Honolulu wasn't jailed for the duration,
and there were others. Nose was a radio officer in USMS ships and a
crackerjack Morse operator, post War gaining KH6IJ callsign. He retired as
professor emeritus of University of Hawaii, Honolulu.
Why bother writing emails when much of what you write is not true?
And in your email you continue to make the comparison as if what you have
failed to give me a citation on as if it continues to be true.
First you have to show it to be true.
73
DR
On Dec 29, 2016 6:46 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Discrimination means judging somebody on their race, religion, gender, or
national origin.
In this case:
All Jews were judged to be danger to the state in Germany.
All Americans of Japanese ancestry were judged to be a danger to the state in
the USA.
All German soldiers were judged to be Nazi war criminals. 3 million German
soldiers were sent to forced labor camps in the Soviet Union after the war
ended without even being given a trial.
Were these things right or wrong? You can't say that one was justified and
another was not.
Obama has ordered drone strikes that have knowingly murdered hundred's of
innocent civilians. Does that make you and I murderers? If you are a father of
one of the children who were murdered by Obama then the answer is yes. That's
why I moved to another country that has no military and doesn't engage in wars.
Accusing somebody of a crime against you does not excuse you of crimes against
them.
I am defending nobody. All of the parties involved were equally guilty
including own own country. To enter a conflict and think that you will not be
hurt is just plain stupid.
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 4:48 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR,
And you served in which branch of the military?
Most German soldiers were drafted and they didn't want to be soldiers in the
first place but had no choice.
Doesn't matter in this conversation.
This was a ruling that applied to all German soldiers at the very beginning of
the trials, whether they were accused of anything or not.
Where is the citation? I don't find what you say at all.
I find this:
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a
superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law,
provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him."
Unless you come up with a citation to show what you say is true, we will not
accept it as true.
And it's NOT discrimination! It's not there. ALL German soldiers weren't
found guilty at all at the the War Crimes Trials.
73
DR
That's just how people think. It's called discrimination. Many times it's wrong
but other times it can save your life. The tiger might not eat you but...
I don't blame Jews, Nazis, communists or myself for being what they are.
My solution to conflict is to avoid it. When you go looking for trouble you
should not be surprised when you find it. When you hit somebody you shouldn't
be surprised when they hit you back. This one of the things I learned from my
martial arts training. Even if you win a fight you still take some damage. Like
the "Yes but you should see the other guy!" joke.
Communist Jews tried to take control of the German government like they did in
Russia when they were less than 1% of the population and were disliked and
distrusted to begin with. What in the world were they thinking?
A lot of innocent Jews died, along with 55 million other people, and a few
Jewish bankers became very wealthy.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 8:53 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
"But at the Nuremberg trials and afterwards Jews said that a Nazi soldier could
not claim innocence because he was only following orders.
[Second Part] They said that every German was guilty for the actions of other
Germans. If so then every Jew is also guilty."
The Second Part isn't true. The Nazi soldiers who followed orders would know
what they would be doing and could refuse.
Every German citizen did not know what the Nazis were doing, especially in the
Jewish concentration camps. They could never be automatically guilty.
Similarly, every Jew could never be automatically guilty.
73
DR
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