RR, you said that ALL were put in camps, but ALL weren't, just some.
I really believe you need a remedial reading course.
I gave you details of one such exception, Katashi Nose of Honolulu. Nose
was a friend of mine.
73
DR
On Dec 30, 2016 5:51 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Poor DR is losing his mind. He writes in great big letters that can be
seen all the way across the room accusing me making things up, and when I
send him a link, something he could have easily found himself faster than
it took me to post it, he claims it's not good enough.
Here are more links:
http://www.ushistory.org/us/51e.asp
https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/japanese-relocation
Note that that these are referred to as "relocation camps" even though
they were concentration camps.
"These Japanese Americans, half of whom were children, were incarcerated
for up to 4 years, without due process of law or any factual basis, in
bleak, remote camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards.
They were forced to evacuate their homes and leave their jobs; in some
cases family members were separated and put into different camps. President
Roosevelt himself called the 10 facilities "concentration camps."
Some Japanese Americans died in the camps due to inadequate medical care
and the emotional stresses they encountered. Several were killed by
military guards posted for allegedly resisting orders."
http://www.pbs.org/childofcamp/history/
Another interesting aspect as referred to in my previous post is that the
camps in Hawaii were kept secret and the US Government did not admit to
their existence until decades later.
The point is not to criticize but to understand that during WW2 everybody
did the same thing.
During the 1956 and 1967 wars Jews executed Palestinian POW's.
"Israelis admitted that in the 1967 Six-Day War, the IDF executed
Palestinian POWs who were fighting in the Egyptian army, a thousand
unresisting Egyptians, and dozens of unarmed Palestinian refugees."
http://www.wrmea.org/1996-february-march/as-evidence-
mounts-toll-of-israeli-prisoner-of-war-massacres-grows.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/21/world/egypt-says-
israelis-killed-pow-s-in-67-war.html
-RR
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DR
That was interesting about the History Channel and it look truthful and OK
to me.
We shouldn't assume that everything RR posts is always wrong. He is the
most
prolific and does keep the action going and gets attention for his self
praising
self.
Stan
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From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2016 3:21 pm
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No, it was a link from the History Channel. They don't do the best job on
history.
73
DR
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I hope you were not referring to the link which I thought was great and
said so?
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2016 12:34 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
You said ALL. That doesn't say "All".
Apologize to this group for misleading us, and then posting this link to
support your misunderstanding.
Perhaps a "reading comprehension" course would be helpful?
73
DR
On Dec 30, 2016 9:33 AM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/japanese-american-relocation
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Sent: Dec 29, 2016 9:57 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
You only answer what you want to answer. You haven't given me a citation
on your statement: "This was a ruling that applied to all German
soldiers at the very beginning of the trials, whether they were accused of
anything or not."
Your statement that all Americans of Japanese ancestry is also untrue, my
longtime friend, Dr. Katashi Nose, of Honolulu wasn't jailed for the
duration, and there were others. Nose was a radio officer in USMS ships
and a crackerjack Morse operator, post War gaining KH6IJ callsign. He
retired as professor emeritus of University of Hawaii, Honolulu.
Why bother writing emails when much of what you write is not true?
And in your email you continue to make the comparison as if what you have
failed to give me a citation on as if it continues to be true.
First you have to show it to be true.
73
DR
On Dec 29, 2016 6:46 PM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Discrimination means judging somebody on their race, religion, gender, or
national origin.
In this case:
All Jews were judged to be danger to the state in Germany.
All Americans of Japanese ancestry were judged to be a danger to the
state in the USA.
All German soldiers were judged to be Nazi war criminals. 3 million
German soldiers were sent to forced labor camps in the Soviet Union after
the war ended without even being given a trial.
Were these things right or wrong? You can't say that one was justified
and another was not.
Obama has ordered drone strikes that have knowingly murdered hundred's of
innocent civilians. Does that make you and I murderers? If you are a father
of one of the children who were murdered by Obama then the answer is yes.
That's why I moved to another country that has no military and doesn't
engage in wars.
Accusing somebody of a crime against you does not excuse you of crimes
against them.
I am defending nobody. All of the parties involved were equally guilty
including own own country. To enter a conflict and think that you will not
be hurt is just plain stupid.
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 4:48 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR,
And you served in which branch of the military?
Most German soldiers were drafted and they didn't want to be soldiers in
the first place but had no choice.
Doesn't matter in this conversation.
This was a ruling that applied to all German soldiers at the very
beginning of the trials, whether they were accused of anything or not.
Where is the citation? I don't find what you say at all.
I find this:
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a
superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law,
*provided
a moral choice was in fact possible to him*."
Unless you come up with a citation to show what you say is true, we will
not accept it as true.
And it's NOT discrimination! It's not there. *ALL* German soldiers
weren't found guilty at all at the the War Crimes Trials.
73
DR
That's just how people think. It's called discrimination. Many times
it's wrong but other times it can save your life. The tiger might not eat
you but...
I don't blame Jews, Nazis, communists or myself for being what they are.
My solution to conflict is to avoid it. When you go looking for trouble
you should not be surprised when you find it. When you hit somebody you
shouldn't be surprised when they hit you back. This one of the things I
learned from my martial arts training. Even if you win a fight you still
take some damage. Like the "Yes but you should see the other guy!" joke.
Communist Jews tried to take control of the German government like they
did in Russia when they were less than 1% of the population and were
disliked and distrusted to begin with. What in the world were they thinking?
A lot of innocent Jews died, along with 55 million other people, and a
few Jewish bankers became very wealthy.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Dec 29, 2016 8:53 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Four Links on Holocaust Experiments
"But at the Nuremberg trials and afterwards Jews said that a Nazi
soldier could not claim innocence because he was only following orders.
[Second Part] They said that every German was guilty for the actions of
other Germans. If so then every Jew is also guilty."
The Second Part isn't true. The Nazi soldiers who followed orders would
know what they would be doing and could refuse.
Every German citizen did not know what the Nazis were doing, especially
in the Jewish concentration camps. They could never be automatically
guilty.
Similarly, every Jew could never be automatically guilty.
73
DR
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