Everyone
1. I urge you to scroll down to see a bunch of interesting previous posts.
2. I am modifying my offer to post RR's posts on sparkscoffee as
probably not necessary? First send your post as before to
sparkscoffee before sending to me. Then If not posted send to me
and I suggest also to JS and others else it could be delayed hours,
days even weeks as I am not always in front of my Lap Top.
3. I sympathize and understand why DR, our adminIstrator partially restricted
RR
because of his frustrating, evasive, flip flop, change the subject, no
response
and previous blocking tactics. Non the less I am totally against any
restrictions
except calling for violence or yelling fire in a crowded theater when there
is no fire.
4. In my humble opinion self praising RR has a weak mind willingly brain
washed by
the Nazis and current Neo-Nazis to get attention and HASN'T CONVINCED
ANYONE
in demonizing Jews, blaming us for ruining the Germany economy causing the
rise
of Hitler, separating Hitler from his Nazi murderous armies which he now
flip
flops saying they were disciplined and humane, life in concentration
camps, that
there were no gas chambers only for lice, ignoring experiments on adults
and
children, reducing the number of victims to less then a million based on a
fairy tale
of the USSR first hiding and then Russia revealing stupid cuckoo low
figures, (RR
believes anything that supports his theories) discounting trials,
witnesses and what nots,
too much to repeat again here.
5. Those who forget the past is doomed to have it repeated. The Holocaust and
the Nazis is
a big draw in newspaper articles, movies, TVs, radio, etc., important
history and definitely
not boring.
6. While most are against me for my self proclaimed Socialism I hope my direct
responses has at least won me credibility?
7. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY HANUKKAH.
House Senior Jewish Socialist
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2016 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
1. Our own government is now run by thugs. For example. In no other country in
the world except for the US do people go to prison for not paying taxes. The US
has 5% of the world's population but has 25% of the world's prison population.
Only socialist/communist governments like the Nazis seize homes, cars and bank
accounts of people only accused of a crime and LIKE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT NOW
DOES thanks to Obama and the left.
2. Germany had a very long military history and a proud military tradition.
German soldiers were very disciplined. They were far more disciplined than the
Soviets, many of whom were brutal savages with no discipline whatsoever. Any
German soldier caught abusing an inmate was severely punished.
3. Hitler wanted all Jews out of Germany. If he really wanted them dead then he
would have executed them on the spot. He would not have gone to all the expense
of having to feed them and transport them a thousand miles just to kill them,
especially since Germany was so short on food and fuel.
I give you the last word but I mean it this time I am done discussing this so
you are going to get a reply.
If you want to discuss these things that let's discuss the very same things
that are happening right here, right now, instead of making up some fairy tale
about it years from now.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: sblumen123@xxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 24, 2016 11:47 AM
To: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
Thank you for sending your post to my personal email address and always
look for it on sparkscoffee.
1.Why don't you include Hitler's Nazi Socialistic government as thug run?
2. Cattle car ride, slave labor work details, instant killings by guards for
rule
violation, starvation diet, morning and evening roll calls especially in
winter,
thin stripped pajamise
2. Do you think Hitler's socialist government was made safer by the Nazi thugs
picking up those Dutch Jewish orphans and their care takers, putting them
presumably in a concentration camp and what do you think their life
expectancy
is?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2016 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
Stan,
Thugs are people who use force to control other people.
All socialist police are thugs because they carry out the will of the
government by force.
The U.S. Constitution is unique in all of human history because it protects
against the government using force against the people. At least it used to
before socialists began taking over the government around the beginning of the
20th century.
None of the things you mention are backed up by any proof. For example, the
"slave workers 3 month life expectancy" is based on the premise that 6 million
Jews died in the camps. Since there were 1 million survivors that means that
each Jew had a 1 in 7 chance of survival, which works out to a 3 month life
expectancy. But if less that 1 million died, which is what the actual records
show, then the life expectancy was much greater.
The only "proof" are stories told by Jews. There is no forensic proof
whatsoever that I know of, not enough to convict a single Nazi of any crime in
a real court of law.
That doesn't mean that atrocities weren't committed. Atrocities are committed
by even the most disciplined soldiers in all wars. War itself is an atrocity.
There is no way to dress it up and make anything but pure evil.
In the case of the Jewish ghettos in Poland many Jews actually bribed the Nazis
for a place on a train to a camp where they were told they would be provided
with food, clothing, shelter and medical care, and even a job! The Nazis said
they were protecting the Jews. These are the horrors of socialism/communism.
The last people on earth you want protecting you is the government.
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government
and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 23, 2016 5:32 PM
To: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
So everyone knows, RR is sending his posts to my personal email address and
I promise to forward all of them to sparksfreelist and all of you can do the
same.
This is the first time you have referred to the Nazis as thugs and the world
knows
Hitler was their leader. Till now you have an unbroken record of explaining
logically
why the thug's leader gets his thugs to do what they did. In other words RR is
trying to separate Hitler from what his thugs did in and out of concentration
camps.
Makes sense to him but not to 16 countries, General Eisenhower and to most
everyone in the world except Neo-Nazis? Don't think it will work?
You have repeatedly asked for proof of atrocities in Hitlers concentration
camps,
skipping the gas chambers for a minute, how about the slave workers 3 month
life expectancy (Wikipedia and witnesses) brought on by the cattle car ride,
experiments on the inmates especially children, working conditions like
quantity and
quality of food, sanitation, morning and evening rolls, especially in winter,
treating or
not treating the sick?
When proof is provided you ignore it by changing the subject or not answering my
post, the latest being Doug Losty? I honestly didn't get the lie you spoke of,
would
you kindly repeat it so I can respond, even possibly agree to it? How could you
know the other 4 links were also lies? If you are sincerely looking for the
truth then
you should look at the other 4 Links.
You said 2% of the population are Jews so if you understand percentages that is
a hugh
cut in the Jewish population. In addition the thugs were ordered by Hitler or
his Nazi
underlings (if you want to protect Hitler?) to make Europe Jew free and the
rest of the
world later when they can or am I wrong?.
Cutting 4 1/2 million down to 1 1/2 is a possible human error but 1 1/2 million
is still a big
number in single concentration camp.
Stan the persistent man
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2016 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
Stan,
Your problem is that you hear only what you want to hear and/or only what
communist propaganda has brainwashed you to hear.
The Nazis were socialist thugs, and Hitler was their leader. But just because
Hitler was the leader of Germany doesn't mean that he was directly responsible
for everything the Nazi government did, no more than Obama is directly
responsible for the police shootings of unarmed civilians .
I absolutely, 100% believe the story about the crematoriums at Auzchwitz being
used as gas chambers and that 6 million Jews died is FALSE because these these
have been proven to be false by forensic tests performed at Auzchwitz and by
the official Nazi records that were seized by the Sviets when they liberated
the camps in 1945 but were kept secret until the Soviet Union collapsed in
1989, at which time they were made public and the signed at the entrance to
Auzchwitz had be changed from "where 4.5 million Jews died" to "where 1.5
million people died".
The first of Doug's links was a lie and showed you the proof.
I did not respond to the other links because I am just not interested. There
probably are mass graves at other German labor camps because many inmates of
those camps died of disease and epidemics and not all of them had crematoriums
so they had to be buried. The only way anybody can dispute that those people
did not die of natual causes is to dig them up and do forensic tests but Jews
will not allow this.
Finally, less that half of the inmates who died in Nazi labor camps were Jews,
so I don't see how Jews can make this just about them.
Post this on sparkscoffee.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
To: ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2016 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
First, your response like all other responses and posts will go on sparkscoffee.
Second, your response here repudiating Hitler and the Nazis BUT NO
MENTION OF THE HOLOCAUST AND ALL IT'S CRUELTY YOU DEFENDED
AND NEVER TILL NOW ACKNOWLEDGED DOES NOT SPEAK WELL OF
YOUR CHARACTER. Exactly why did you not open up the other 4 links of
Doug Losty, I couldn't figure it out? Do you still standby about Jewish fairy
tales on the Holocaust and and all the other anti Jewish crap you have been
dumping on this net? Are you now admitting you had your head up your ass
before denying the Holocaust over and over again?
Your turn around doesn't do much for your credibility on anything.
Stan the Jew
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2016 11:58 am
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
Stan,
I've told you many times that I am no fan of Hitler or the Nazis. The Nazis
were socialists who were not much different than the Bolshevik Jews.
Explaining the reasons why the Nazis did the things they did is not condoning
what they did.
But that does not mean the German Jews were innocent. Jews openly declared war
on Hitler and Nazi Germany in 1933. If they hadn't then history might have been
much different and maybe there wouldn't have been any war or any forced labor
camps.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: sblumen123@xxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 23, 2016 10:16 AM
To: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
First, I or anyone on the net can put all your posts on sparkscoffee like this
one
by you simply sending it to our personal email address, so need to stop posting.
Two, why would the Nazis take children from a Jewish orphanage and those
adults taking care of them, most likely to one of their concentration camps
when
clearly they are no threat to them?
Three, when I spook of book burning your response was a few books in America
were
banned. Do you now agree that Hitler did not allow free speech to anyone who
opposed
him?
Four, the attack on Pearl Harbor was devastating and not all Japanese here were
citizens
and I read somewhere only 62% were and they were not treated as harshly as
those in
concentration camps and we took recruits into our army where they were awarded
more
medals then average and you got to be cuckoo stupid to compare the two camps
equally.
Fifth, sixteen nations is a lot of nations and if you think that many were
controlled by Jews, I
humbly say you are nuts. In their view the massive evidence of human
devastation is so
great that it calls for denial of free speech on that issue. However, in my
case I agree with
you, such restriction is not necessary, let the Neo-Nazis and their followers
like you have
your freedom of speech stimulating my responses.
Sixth, how come you don't make denial of freedom of speech by Hitler and the
Nazis an
issue? Heil Von Ron Ristad!
.
House Freedom of Speech Man
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2016 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
I have been cut off from sparkscoffee so why would I post?
I think it was admirable for the woman to save the Jews from the Nazis. It's a
shame they had all Jews were made to pay for the acts of other Jews, just as it
was a shame that all Japanese-Americans had to suffer just because they were
Japanese.
16 countries have Holocaust denial laws for the same reason that the Nazis had
censorship and the same reason that DR removed me from sparkscoffee, which is
that it's only illegal to speak the truth when what you are saying is true.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: sblumen123@xxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 22, 2016 1:26 PM
To: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
Read the news article again, they were children in a Jewish orphanage, and a
whole lot of
other stuff. where do you get this crap about leaders of the communist party
and most if not
all opposed Nazi Germany. Further more this was a non Jewish lady, there were
10 others
helping her to save lives, not overthrow the Nazis. You got to be cuckoo to
compare our
internment camps to Nazi concentration camps.
Do you think you are smarter and know more then Eisenhower who was an eye
witness
which you ain't and who was ashamed of his German name and 16 countries who
made it
a crime to deny the Holocaust and the Nazi experiments you haven't responded to
and all
the trials, etc, etc?
Did you try posting your reply on sparkscoffee?
Stan the real man
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Dec 22, 2016 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
Stan,
Jews were sent to forced labor camps whose only crime was that they happened to
belong to a group some of whose members were leaders of the communist party and
most if not all of whom opposed Nazi Germany. Nobody denies that.
In the same way all Americans of Japanese ancestry, most of whom were loyal
Americans, were sent to concentration camps by FDR. They didn't die of disease,
epidemics and starvation but that's because the camps were in the U.S. which
was not effected by the war. Due to the atrocities committed against American
POW's FDR probably did them a favor by protecting them from the American public.
That is war. I have never supported war. I have never supported our troops or
any of that bullshit.
RR
Read the news report again, they were children in a Jewish orphanage, a father
and two sons,
and a whole lot of other stuff.
-----Original Message-----
From: sblumen123@xxxxxxx
Sent: Dec 22, 2016 12:33 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Rescued Dutch Jews during the Holocaust
RR
Does this shake your belief in the Holocaust a tinsy winsy bit or just another
Jewish fairy tale?
Stan the Jew man
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pritchard-rescued-dutch-jews-holocaust-dies-44326936
