> > Haven't seen it drop for my groups, but they > apparently DO drop in HoHonor > and BoThunder with some degree of regularity (heck, > I was in BoThunder > when the Thunderous Drums of Karana dropped for > someone; incredible bard > drum). > -- Well, those patterns would be great for any slot. Hope you score some plate for yourself. Not sure what else is required for the quest after you have the patterns. > I would think they WOULD be more open to guests > helping out on flagging > raids, though, where the reward is open to pretty > much anyone who attends > the raid. -- On some of their posts, they have talked about teaming up with Dragon Council for PoP raids. So, who knows, they may be more accepting of help nowadays. > Great pickup group last night in PoV--druid as > healer, pally as tank, > chanter as slower and then me, mage, ranger. Nice > to see nonstandard > roles (usually cleric/war/shammy in the first 3 > slots), and nonstop > pulling. 43 percent of an AA point left for fade! It can be a lot of fun trying new tactics and non standard groups. We as SMEE need to be willing and able to swap tactics on the fly based on who is in the group and what kind of pull we get. Actually been doing a little more research on some mobs and we are going to have to start setting up some different roles for our major mob fights. Main Assist/Main Tank = We are all pretty comfy with that one. Second Assist/Peeler = Becomes MA if MA dies. Also responsible for picking up mob on pull (specially when no CC or when mobs unmezzable or to numorous) Sometimes known as ghetto mezzing or Tank mezzing mobs. Rampage Tank = There are some higher end mobs that have the ability to rampage. These mobs have 2 lists, the agro list (which we all know and love) and the rampage list. The rampage list is set purely on order in which agro is gained. When a mob rampages, it does its normal attack on person who currently has agro and additional does a normal round of attacks on the highest person on the rampage list (discounting the person with current agro). There is a lot more about rampage that I won't go into, but just to get in idea. All melee classes need to be prepared to step into any of those roles depending on how the battle is going and what chars are there. Just some thoughts on tanking. bear __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com