Dave, All of what you say matches my own experience. And, I have to admit, you're right about the copyright issue of passing along what you've edited. Dale -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:37 PM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Difficulty with Sibelius Manual Dale, Bad news. All the excerpts I've given are from a text version that I created from PDF. You can either use Adobe to save as text, or use an OCR like the Freedom Import Printer from Openbook to do all the recognition and convert to text. Then I've been constantly editing the text file over two years as I read through it, removing superfluous stuff and excess characters, line breaks, etc. to ultimately come up with a very usable text file for my own purposes. Now if I had permission from Sibelius to send this to you I would, but without that permission it would violate copyright. Besides all the text in the original file is not there, since I don't like to slog through all the license, disclaimers, etc. when I read, so it's not even a true copy of the original. You may have to do the same for yourself if you really want to start reading the manual. Good news is that once you've done all the cleanup work, there is one heck of a lot of powerful information in that manual, and Mr. Spreadberry is a rather humorous author, at times. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Lieser" <Dale.Lieser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 13:48 Subject: [sib-access] Difficulty with Sibelius Manual Dan, Through the years I've tried utilizing the electronic, Sibelius manual-that is, F1 Help. The most success I've had is to make a text file of the document, but it's rather unwieldy to manage. Would you please give a tutorial-type, email explanation of what might work best? I've seen you reference the manual, and I'm just crazy enough to almost want to read the majority of it, that I might learn the program at a higher level. Obviously, the links to each topic and sub-point of the PDF would be desirable, but is an old-fashioned text search the ticket for us? Thank you for carefully considering the matter of the manual. It seems to be one of the keys to "unlocking" knowledge of the software's abilities. Dale Dale Lieser Southwest Baptist Church 1300 SW 54th St Oklahoma City, OK 73119 405.682.1491 x220 dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx