[SI-LIST] Re: testing LVPECL signal with 50ohm system

  • From: "Bob McNamara" <electronbob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 06:49:40 -0700

[Sorry, forgot to copy the reflector the first time]

What I've done in the past is to terminate the signal in
a Thevenin equivalent to Vcc-2V and use the 50ohm termination
in the scope as part of the Thevenin circuit.

For example in your case of LVPECL at 3.3V, you could use
127 Ohms to +3.3V and 83 Ohms to ground.  That gives you a 
Thevenin equivalent resistance of 50.2 Ohms and a Thevenin
voltage of 1.304 Volts.  The 83 Ohm resistance consists
of 33 Ohms on your module and 50 Ohms in the scope.
Then you set up your scope with an external attenuation
of 1.66:1 as a result of the voltage divider formed by
the 33 Ohm resistor and 50 Ohm termination.

Bob


> ------------Original Message-------------
> From: "Dan.Zhu" <dan.zhu@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: dan.zhu@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, Sep-2-2003 2:27 PM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] testing LVPECL signal with 50ohm system
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a question on how to test LVPECL signal with 50ohm system like digital 
> oscilloscope or Spectrum Analyzer (not 
> probeing, just SMA connector on board ->cable-> scope). 
> 
> Background -
> For the LVPECL(VCC=3.3v & VEE=0v) output, normally a 50ohm termination 
> resistor is used between LVPECL output pin and 
> a voltage source of Vtt(=VCC-2v) to get a common-mode PECL output level of 
> VCC-1.3v.  When testing a standalone PECL 
> device, people can lower the supply/gnd of pecl device by -2v so VCC'=1.3v, 
> VEE'=-2v -> Vtt'=0v, then a digital 
> oscilloscope with 50ohm input resistor(to GND) can be used to replace the 
> 50ohm termination resistor and test the 
> signal directly. 
> 
> Question -
> My question is that if due to some reason, the supply of PECL device can't be 
> changed(for example, the pecl device is 
> integrated on a mixed-signal IC and  change of supply of PECL device is not 
> allowed), there is any other way we can 
> still test the PECL output signal directly(not probeing, just SMA connector 
> on board ->cable-> scope)?
> 
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Dan Zhu
> 
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