[SI-LIST] Re: TLM: Laplace and discrete difference equations
- From: "Chris Padilla \(cpad\)" <cpad@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <write2larsj@xxxxxxxxx>, <shlepnev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <richardg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:37:35 -0700
I have this one:
"The Transmission-Line Modeling Method TLM" by Christos Christopoulos =
(ISBN 0-7803-1017-9)
Cheers,
Chris Padilla
Cisco Systems
San Jose, CA
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: TLM: Laplace and discrete difference equations
Yuriy and Richard,
Which books on the TLM method would you recommend for =
application-oriented people wanting to implement their own TLM code?
So far I identified:
"Electromagnetic Analysis Using Transmission Line Variables" By Maurice =
Weiner (ISBN 981024438X)
"Die "Transmission Line Matrix" (TLM) Methode im Zeitbereich" By Ulf =
M=FCller (ISBN 3817115164)
Thanks in advance,
Lars Juul
2007/5/14, Yuriy Shlepnev <shlepnev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Richard,
>
> There are no universal recommendations on the step and area sizes. It=20
> depends on multiple details of the algorithm and implementation such=20
> as the boundary condition approximation, type of basis functions or=20
> order of the local approximation. You have to investigate the=20
> dependency of the characteristic impedance from the step size and from =
> the area size to get an idea on accuracy. It is called convergence=20
> study. Fix the area size for instance and solve the problem multiple=20
> times with different grids (keep the same high accuracy for the=20
> iterative solver or use a direct solver). Plot the impedance vs. step=20
> size - it will give you rough idea on the method convergence from the=20
> step size. Use a geometry with known answer to validate your solution=20
> and to estimate accuracy (an ideal 50-Ohm strip line for instance). =20
> Richardson's extrapolation can be used sometime to find the=20
> convergence limit and to estimate the accuracy for complex geometries=20
> without comparisons.
> In general, the convergence study and comparisons with results=20
> obtained analytically or with other methods are essential steps to=20
> validate a field solver algorithm and to find balance between accuracy =
and performance.
>
> Best regards,
> Yuriy Shlepnev
> Simberian Inc.
> http://www.simberian.com/
>
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> Behalf Of Richard Georgerian
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> Greetings All,
> I have been reading some books on transmission line modeling and one=20
> of the things that interest me was the Laplace equation. The material=20
> explains Laplace using the discrete difference equations, creating the =
> boundary conditions and the incremental steps. The area that I don't=20
> fully understand is how to determine the size of the incremental step=20
> size and how large the area of interest should be when calculating an=20
> impedance for a stripline for example. Since this is an iterative=20
> process to calculate the voltages and charges, the larger the area and =
> smaller the step sizes will increase the time to convergence. So with=20
> difference step sizes or different boundary dimensions that gives=20
> different results (to within a tolerance), how do I determine those=20
> step sizes or boundary dimensions?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> > Richard
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