Very nice video! It pulls together a lot of disciplines. If we think of the current waveform (rather than voltage) the open circuit and closed circuit reflections fit with the lecture. The forcing function would be current. It comes back right side up (current doubles) at short circuit and upside down for an open circuit (opposite polarity, current cancelation). I think we could draw another analogy where the forcing function is voltage and the voltage doubles at the far end of an open line. This is more in line with our EE intuition. Forcing a current works better with his impedance (not admittance) discussion later in the lecture. Regards, Larry Smith -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:48 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: istvan.novak@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Shive wave machine video Hi, Me again. Istvan sent me an interesting message off-list questioning Shive’s analogy between electrical open and mechanical clamped. His drift was "An electrical open 'feels' more like a mechanical free end." We agreed the answer might be of general interest so I’m posting an explanation here: http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com/2012/shive-wave-machine-allows-visualization-of-wave-properties#math Best regards, -- Colin ------ From: Istvan Novak [mailto:istvan.novak@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:01 AM To: WARWICK,COLIN (A-Americas,ex1) Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: Shive wave machine video Hi Colin, Thanks for posting the link. Very nice illustrations... I am at loss with one detail though. On the comparison chart among mechanical, electrical and acoustic transmission lines and reflections, I see short circuit describing open end (on the left of the screen capture), and open circuit for 'restrained' or shorted end. Does this make sense to you? Probably I am just not familiar with the nomenclature here... Regards, Istvan ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu