Stephen, You can find Signal Integrity lectures, for example ELCT762 and ELCT865 are given by Intel and USC. And below books are good for timing perspective : Timing Analysis and Simulation for Signal Integrity Engineers High Speed Digital System Design Ferhat Yaldiz On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Wright, Richard <Richard.Wright@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I am also learning from Thierauf's book. It came recommended by the SIGINT > expert we once had here. > BTW, thanks for the video link, Doug. > "Rich" Wright > Electrical (Hardware) Engineer > richard.wright@xxxxxxx | www.ncr.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Yuriy Shlepnev > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 5:11 PM > To: billh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Stephen.Lin@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Intro to Signal Integrity fundamental book > > Bill, > > The Young's book is relatively rigorous and theoretical, but not too much > theoretical at the same time - well balanced. Good to learn fundamentals > :-) It is one of the books I used to learn the signal integrity subject. > Another book on SI that I leaned from was S. C. Thierauf, High-speed > circuit board signal integrity, Artech House, 2004. > > Best regards, > Yuriy > > Yuriy Shlepnev, Ph.D. > President, Simberian Inc. > 3030 S Torrey Pines Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89146, USA Office +1-702-876-2882; > Fax +1-702-482-7903 Cell +1-206-409-2368; Virtual +1-408-627-7706 > Skype: shlepnev > > www.simberian.com > Simbeor â Accurate, Fast, Easy and Affordable Electromagnetic Signal > Integrity Software > 2010 and 2011 DesignVision Award Winner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Bill Hargin (Nan Ya, USA) > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 11:43 AM > To: shlepnev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Stephen.Lin@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Intro to Signal Integrity fundamental book > > Hi Yuriy: Is there anything in particular that stands out to you about > Young's book? (Something it covers well that's unique and different?) > > Bill Hargin > Director of North American Sales and Marketing Nan Ya Copper-Clad Laminates > billh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ⪠425-301-4425 ⪠Skype: bill.hargin > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Yuriy Shlepnev > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 7:30 AM > To: Stephen.Lin@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Intro to Signal Integrity fundamental book > > Stephen, > > In addition to what was already recommended on signal integrity, I would > like to add: > B. Young, Digital signal integrity: Modeling and simulation with > interconnects and packages, Prentice Hall PTR, 2001. > > Note, that the digital interconnects are just planar waveguiding > structures with the complications imposed by the signal bandwidth and > manufacturing technology. To understand the fundamentals of the subject I > can recommend to start with the theory of transmission lines and the > relevant parts of the microwave theory (assuming that you already have good > understanding of the circuit theory): > C. Paul, Analysis of Multiconductor Transmission Lines, Wiley-IEEE, 2007. > F. Gardiol, Microstrip circuits, John Wiley & Sons,1994. > D.M. Pozar, Microwave engineering, John Wiley & Sons, 1998. > S. Ramo, J.R. Whinnery, T. Van Duzer, Fields and waves in communication > electronics, John Wiley & Sons, 1994. > > Best regards, > Yuriy > > Yuriy Shlepnev, Ph.D. > President, Simberian Inc. > 3030 S Torrey Pines Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89146, USA Office +1-702-876-2882; > Fax +1-702-482-7903 Cell +1-206-409-2368; Virtual +1-408-627-7706 > Skype: shlepnev > > www.simberian.com > Simbeor - Accurate, Fast, Easy and Affordable Electromagnetic Signal > Integrity Software > 2010 and 2011 DesignVision Award Winner > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Stephen Lin > Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 1:12 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Intro to Signal Integrity fundamental book > > Hi, All, > Can anyone recommend me a good fundamental signal integrity book? > I am an ~15 yrs ASIC Electrical Engineer (primary in digital area and > small exposure to analog/mixed design) who is recently jumping into signal > integrity project that will be "applying" the SI concepts on transmission > line to analyze IO behavior, impedance analysis, eye-diagram analysis, > dc/ac behavior of its spice simulation...etc. > > I am looking for an "applied" SI book that is fundamental and easy to > understand for EE person like me. > I found a forum that recommended this intro book: "Electromagnetics for > Engineers" by Fawwaz T. Ulaby > > Has anybody read that book and can validate if it's a good starting point > book for me? Or maybe there is a better book out there for me? > > Thank you very much for your help on this. > > Regards, > Stephen > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu