I'm trying to relate reference clock phase noise to eye closure in a TX SERDES application. At this time I'm only interested in this area of the TX performance, as I'm trying to specify a clocking scheme for a much larger design. Assuming a second order TX PLL I can come up with an expression that relates the reference clock phase noise to the transfer characteristic of the PLL. However I'm stuck with an intergral to work out the RMS jitter of the reference, the upper limit of which is set by the 3dB point of the PLL, I'm not sure how to set the lower limit. I've read in a couple of places for example ref (1), a figure of 10KHz but can find no analytical basis for this figure. Any pointers much appreciated ref (1) Random Jitter - What Is Really Going On? October 22, 2001 - CommsDesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu