I suspect you are actually measuring the common mode ground current coupling of the scope (plus the radiated energy passing through the loop of the probe ground wire). See if your results change if you float the scope power with a good medical isolation transformer (at your own risk), or wrap the power cord many times through a good torroid, or wrap the ground cable around the tip of the scope probe (to reduce the loop area). =20 If you see a dramatic change, you will know your measurement reflects more of whats going on in your measurement environment than what is going on in your PCB. =20 Gary -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ospyng Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:23 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] How to Measure Ground Noise hi, I was taught to measure ground noise, by having the ground of the probe connect to ground TP of the board and the tip of the probe measuring the same TP. is this the correct where? and Why?=20 is it because of the ground cable (3 inch) cause a loop, therefore the reference and the tip of the probe has a different voltage? thanks pyng ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu