[SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE Fieldsolver vs FastHenry

  • From: emily zheng <ezz_zheng@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: andy1390@xxxxxxxxx, Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:57:33 -0800 (PST)

HI Andy
Are you comparing the RLGC from Hspice with 1m long and FastHenry with 1mil? 

If so, what you really need to compare is the RLGC from two tools with the same 
lengths. If your data below from FastHenry 25.4mm long, you can simply convert 
it to 1m (Lnew=L11*1000/25.4), you will see the same results from two tools.

Emily


----- Original Message ----
From: Andy Kuo <andy1390@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 3:06:27 PM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE Fieldsolver vs FastHenry


Hi Jory,
I have compared both the loop inductance and partial inductance and
cannot have the values agree.
Here is the inductance from HSPICE fieldsolver and it is per meter

+ Lo = 3.684847e-07 2.023918e-08
+      2.023918e-08 3.684847e-07
To compare with FastHenry, I multipled the above to 25.4mm as the
length of the conductor is 25.4mm and the results are:
+ Lo = 9.3595114e-9 5.1407517e-10
+      5.1407517e-10 9.3595114e-9

Compare to FastHenry (partial inductance) below, the results are still
very far away.
Row 0: 2.99871e-008 1.61083e-008
Row 1: 1.61083e-008 2.99868e-008


Does anyone know why?

Thanks,
Andy

On 12/6/06, Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Andy,
> Could be that you are looking at partial inductance versus loop inductance 
> which will not agree.  Can you post the results?
> -Jory
>
>
> Andy Kuo <andy1390@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am trying to extract the inductance from both HSPICE fieldsolver and from
> Fasthenry on a simple 2 parallel conductors with a reference ground plane.
> However, the extracted data from HSPICE fieldsolver and FastHenry doesn't
> agree.
>
> I know the value from HSPICE is per meter value, so I have multiplied the
> value with the correct length to compare. Still, the results do not
> correlate at all.
>
> Does anyone know the difference between the two?
>
> --
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