[SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE Fieldsolver vs FastHenry

  • From: Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Andy Kuo <andy1390@xxxxxxxxx>, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:58:10 -0800 (PST)

Hello Andy,
I get roughly the same numbers as the HSPICE field solver using a Lossy T-Line 
Calculator.  You might want to check the the setup with FastHenry.
-Jory
Andy Kuo <andy1390@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Jory,
  
 Please see attached pdf file for the dimension.
  
 The length is 25.4mm, and the dielectric is simply air.  I do not think 
dielectric will affect inductance though
  
 Any suggestions and help will be really appreciated,
  
 Thanks in advance,
 Andy
 

On 12/6/06, Jory McKinley < jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hello Andy,
> Can you post the conductor(h,w,thick)/dielectric properties and dimensions
> as well?
> -Jory 
> 
> 
> Andy Kuo <andy1390@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jory,
> I have compared both the loop inductance and partial inductance and
> cannot have the values agree. 
> Here is the inductance from HSPICE fieldsolver and it is per meter
> 
> + Lo = 3.684847e-07 2.023918e-08
> + 2.023918e-08 3.684847e-07
> To compare with FastHenry, I multipled the above to  25.4mm as the
> length of the conductor is 25.4mm and the results are:
> + Lo = 9.3595114e-9 5.1407517e-10
> + 5.1407517e-10 9.3595114e-9
> 
> Compare to FastHenry (partial inductance) below, the results are still 
> very far away.
> Row 0: 2.99871e-008 1.61083e-008
> Row 1: 1.61083e-008 2.99868e-008
> 
> 
> Does anyone know why?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> On 12/6/06, Jory McKinley wrote: 
> > Hello Andy,
> > Could be that you are looking at partial inductance versus loop inductance
> which will not agree. Can you post the results?
> > -Jory
> >
> >
> > Andy Kuo wrote: 
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I am trying to extract the inductance from both HSPICE fieldsolver and
> from
> > Fasthenry on a simple 2 parallel conductors with a reference ground plane.
 > > However, the extracted data from HSPICE fieldsolver and FastHenry doesn't
> > agree.
> >
> > I know the value from HSPICE is per meter value, so I have multiplied the
> > value with the correct length to compare. Still, the results do not 
> > correlate at all.
> >
> > Does anyone know the difference between the two?
> >
> > --
> > Andy Kuo
> >
> >
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