Hi, all, I used to work on power simulation on digital IC (smartcard chip etc), and now want to expand to EM radiation analysis. Can you give me some advices on the EM analysis? For example: 1. What software(s) are used to do EM simulation? In power simulation, I use Cadence (or other layout editor) to get GDSII format of a circuit, and then perform parasitic extraction, and then do back-annotattion on the circuit, to get updated SPICE or Verilog netlist... I suppose in EM simulation, the parasitic extraction should be different, i.e. should consider (coupling) inductance. .. am I right? ... I know Mentor Graphic has a complete suite tool flow for RF IC design, including Calibre xRC to do parasitic extraction. Have anyone ever used it? 2. If we use small coils (tens of um in diameter) near an circuit surface to measure its EM emission, is the measured EM result nearly proportional to the current? given the coils act as transformers here. If it is true, can I use current to represent EM emission? which is quite straightforward to deal with. 3. I'm trying to start with a small circuit simulation in HSPICE, like a counter or adder, to observe data-dependency EM radiation. Can I use W element (lossy transmission line model) to model wires and claim the circuit pattern as EM radiation? Hope my questions do not look too silly. Thank you! Huiyun ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http:/www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu