[SI-LIST] Re: BoardScan by Quantic and HyperLynx by Mentor
- From: Dan Bostan <dbostan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rsefton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:32:15 -0700 (PDT)
I did not use Quantic, and do not know anything about it, but I know a lot
about Hyperlynx and like the tool very much.
I think you wouldn't make a mistake going Hyperlynx...
/dan
Ken Cantrell <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Bob,
If you are running well established technologies, then perhaps you are
right, i.e., anyone can make their own DIMM stick. There's directions and
everything. However for anything current or cutting edge, you're on your
own. You get the vendor information and all it says is preliminary and TBD.
Under those circumstances, the majority of my time is spent on pre-layout so
that post-layout is just a sanity check that CAD correctly implemented what
was called for. I wouldn't do without either one though, since you always
catch something in post-layout. I prefer to use two hands instead of one.
my 2cents,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Robert Sefton
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:30 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: BoardScan by Quantic and HyperLynx by Mentor
Lee -
I'd argue that post-layout checks are valuable for most boards. Most boards
(based on my experience) don't require extensive pre-layout planning, and
having the ability to scan the layout for major problems as a CYA just
before fab makes sense for these situations. Nobody calls you unless they
have special concerns, but most designs out there are still not at the
threshold that requires extensive pre-layout planning.
To address the OP's question. I'm a consultant always looking for
cost-effective EDA tools. About three years ago I took a gamble (because the
price was right) and bought Omega Plus from Quantic-EMC (which includes
BoardScan). They're basically an academic group, and I think the underlying
algorithms in their software are top-notch, but the usability (i.e., user
interface), stability, and support (I think they're a 2-man shop) are weak.
At the time I bought they had no IBIS support and had very limited ability
to import various PCB layout formats. I would encourage you to look
elsewhere.
Bob S.
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lee Ritchey
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:30 PM
To: Hill, John; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: BoardScan by Quantic and HyperLynx by Mentor
John,
If you are wainting until after layout is complete to do SI analysis, I'm
afraid the horse has already fled the barn. Yes, there are tools that will
look after layout, but it's at the wrong end of the process.
> [Original Message]
> From: Hill, John
> To:
> Date: 5/18/2006 2:34:19 PM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] BoardScan by Quantic and HyperLynx by Mentor
>
> Hello all,
> This is my first time writing to this List, but here goes:
>
> Our PCB Layout house has suggested using BoardScan by Quantic for
> Signal Integrity and Crosstalk analysis. I think HyperLynx by Mentor
> would be the better tool. Which tool is better and why?
>
> Best regards,
>
> John
>
>
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