Laurie is correct. In order to do what the AKC calls an "in-ring observation," the observer must already be an approved judge of another breed. There are also qualifications required of the judge being observed. However, the Futurity/Maturity is not an AKC event...therefore if the PC wanted to allow an observer the AKC wouldn't be involved. There are other rules that go along with this program, too. I think the ringside mentoring is the best way to go, tho...much better than in ring observations (I love the term "shadow judge" and wish I could remember who said that)...but ringside mentoring is wonderful and WILL count as one item when the mentored one applies for judging approval. The observing would not count, you see. Best idea would be to have a group of judges or breed experts doing the mentoring and the "would be judges" have to change mentors half way through judging..or maybe even more than that. It could be a really wonderful education program... Peggy InquestGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: > >In a message dated 8/24/2005 8:12:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, pruett@ma >ine.edu writes: >It is my understanding that only AKC judges are allowed to observe other >judges >from inside the AKC ring. For example, if I were approved to judge GSD's >and >wanted to add shelties, then I could observe a sheltie judge from inside the >ring. But, if I were not approved to judge any breeds, than I wouldn't be >allowed inside the ring to observe. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================