Mentoring is all well and good if it's to learn ring procedure but that can be learned just from watching outside the ring at various shows. The problem with a mentoring program arises when one judge is influencing a "potenial" judges views of the standard. For example, I attended a Futurity a few years ago in which the judge from the specialty the previous day was in the ring "mentoring" the Futurity judge. Many of us sitting ringside overheard her tell the Futurity judge "That was my class winner yesterday. I didn't place that dog at all yesterday. That was my Best Puppy/Opposite sex puppy from yesterday." Low and behold, the Futurity judge put up all the dogs that the other judge said she had given classes or placed in almost the exact order from the previous day (slight changes from the Futurity age classes and the specialty puppy classes). -------------- Original message -------------- > >Very good point, and yes Christine, the AKC allows prospective judges to > >"observe" other judges in the ring. There is a definite protocol for this > >program. We should all look into taking advantage of this, since specialty > >matches > >are become part of our history. > > It is my understanding that only AKC judges are allowed to observe other > judges > from inside the AKC ring. For example, if I were approved to judge GSD's and > wanted to add shelties, then I could observe a sheltie judge from inside the > ring. But, if I were not approved to judge any breeds, than I wouldn't be > allowed inside the ring to observe. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. > > I do think we could set up a ringside mentoring program for prospective > futurity > judges where a breeder/judge would sit with a prospective judge and comment > on > ring procedure. A couple of sessions like that could substitute for a > specialty match assignment (or two). > > Laurie > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind > are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER > OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF > ALL > PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A > VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================