In a message dated 11/11/2005 3:44:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pmick@xxxxxxxxx writes: > If in the judge's opinion any substance has been used to alter or > change the natural color or shade of natural color or natural markings > of a dog, The problem with this is just what is going on with the list. I have a bitch that IS very black and red. When she was with a handler, I had more than one person come to me and tell me I should take her away from that team because they were dying her an extremely dark vibrant red. Needless to say I immediately went to see her and she was her natural color. So if any of them were judges they were have "DQ" her for being black and red.. I think people need to be very careful when accusing. Does it go on, YES! But if you are going to point the finger you need to be very, very careful and have some kind of proof. Not just suspect and if proof is had then definitely punish the perpetrators. JMHO Debbie Kaser ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================