In a message dated 11/11/05 7:14:28 PM, Blackoaks1@xxxxxxx writes: << linebred Kane bitch, and got my current black and red dog. He will be bred in the spring to a black and red bitch, who was sired by Schokrest Vermont X current dog's black and red full sister. Will be hoping for black and red puppies. Marcia Black Oak's Missouri =================================================================== My male special in the 80's was a Kane great grandson and his sire and grandsire were also very black and red...Lorraine Schowalter of Schokrest Kennels had tons and tons of dogs with very red pigment. I remember once asking Lorraine where all that red came from that was in a certain bitch she was showing and she said, My dear, just look in her pedigree!!! As I said before it is all in the genes! Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================