In a message dated 11/19/2005 4:19:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: Well, you trained your dog obviously. What about a pup who has not been around children who pull, scream, etc. Three year olds can act TERRIBLE! Good temperament is an inherent quality of a good GSD, or any other dog. but esp in our breed. Love and acceptance of children is not trained it is a quality in good GSDs that even Stephanitz was clear about. Nitro is a big tough dog for example...tough as they come. You know what he absolutely adores???? BABIES AND TODDLERS. He will go out of his way to go and slurp an infant in a stroller, dragging us behind. A dog that would bite a child for ANY reason should not be allowed to breath, don't care how much hair or ear or tail pulling or taking away of toys is done by the uneducated little person.....some things you cannot give on....and a child aggressive GSD should NEVER be allowed to reproduce, or be tolerated by its owners.Unforgivable, in my book Fault of temperament in our breed is a SERIOUS fault, whether it is cowardice, nervousness or child aggression, it cannot be overlooked, temperament is what sets apart our great breed.... IMHO Kathy WEBSITE UPDATED: NOV 12, 2005 _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) VICTORY GSDs, There Is Something In A Name ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================