In a message dated 11/19/2005 5:22:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, utter227@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Well, you trained your dog obviously. What about a pup who has not been around children who pull, scream, etc. Three year olds can act TERRIBLE! I don't have children and my dogs have never lived in a home with children. I won't "settle" for less than I know these dogs can be. I used to go along and make all of the politically correct noises AND SECRETELY FEEL BAD FOR THOSE THAT "SETTLED". In an era though, of breed legislation, problems w/ home owners insurance etc., etc., if folks are going to stand up and protest such restrictions, then we had BETTER POLICE OUR OWN. Therefore, moving forward, I'm going to stand up and say...no SHOUT..."that's wrong"! You mentioned "maybe the dog was startled". Pray tell, how a dog, with part of it being of a breed that can find earthquake victims under 35 feet of concrete and rubble CAN BE STARTLED BY A CHILD STANDING NEXT TO IT???????? On Mother's Day my brother, his 18 month old son, Nicholas, and one of my boys were rough-housing on my parent's back lawn. They baby was crawling over the dog who had rolled over for a belly rub and with my brother right there, somehow slipped and stepped on the dog's testicles. You could hear the "wwwwooooofff" as the poor dog exhaled, like all of the air had been let out of him (poor boy!). Did he snarl, bite, growl?????...OF COURSE NOT! You can't "train" that. NO EXCUSES!!!! Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================