Sorry I think I messed up and "bounced this" try again, here... We can all train dogs to not shy, not react in an obvious way, from mildly unsure dogs to raging spooks. It is not difficult. It is good to train them, to socialize them, as much as is necessary to make them easier to live with, for all concerned. If and when it is necessary. However in the end, in taking a shy, or nervous dog, and desensitizing him, and "socializing " him , sometimes to the nth degree...you still have not fixed the problem, only put a bandaid on it. Easier to live with afterwards? Oh sure , maybe..but In the end you still only have a well- trained spook. No thanks. Did that for a living and very successfully with many show dogs, ...but, don't want to own dogs like that for ourselves. Again, it depends on what an individual is willing to live with...or not. Kathy (Tank) *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com <http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/>* *Updated: June 2013* *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBsCH. Victory's Leviathan **Kappo von Eisenwerk* *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef* *"Victory...*Vires et honestas" > >> >> >>> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================