[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Walk softly but..............

  • From: "Rbuffdogs ." <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:22:53 -0800

To each his own Kathy (@ Pinehills) .   We do raise our puppies carefully,
but the beauty is , socializing etc is not something that
we feel compelled to do b/c they "need to get out"  because they need to
get over being in the big wide world./
They are solid, whether we take them out at 12 weeks or 12 months.  Solid.
I believe temperament is as inheritable as coat color, size, structure.  It
think genetics plays a HUGE part in
solid temperament, nerves, character.   I think also temperament is passed
down, good or bad from
deeper in the pedigree than we realize.  I have seen puppies of solid
parents, with horrendous temperaments..and
you stand and wonder why?   Do a little research and then you find out, "oh
Grandma/Grandpa etc was a wingnut"
Socialize or don't .   If I start with truly solid dogs, I have the option.
 If I do not, my hand is forced, I have to socialize
them early and often to "desensitize " them to being in the world....no
thanks.  I would rather not have to worry about it.

But I do enjoy getting puppies out later on ..great ambassadors for the
breed, and great fun...IF they are solid.
Nothing worse than watching a GSD
of ANY age , nut up in front of the general public...ugh.. hate to see it
at shows, hate to see it in front of John Q. ....horrendous.

Kathy (Tank)

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On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>  What?  I think every dog needs to be carefully raised, well started and
> socialized to reach their full potential. (As opposed to warehousing
> potential show prospects in pens and pulling them out for a show day only).
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>  In a message dated 2/8/2014 3:55:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tanksr@xxxxxxxxx writes:
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> The truly sound dog does not need socialization, but they aren't all
> perfect so maybe we need to help some of them out a bit. The danger in that
> is it can be a slippery slope as we make more and more excuses for
> character flaws. It's ok to socialize and train to correct the flaws but
> not to make the mistake of using them for breeding. Since we don't really
> have a very good method of testing temperament in our system, I think we
> need to be extra diligent when choosing breeding animals.
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> Ken
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> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>  How old were they when you got them?  Maybe somebody else put the good
>> foundation on them. Not saying they aren't sound, just saying someone may
>> have given them a great start.
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>> The longer I am around dogs, the more importance I put on a really good
>> start.
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