[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Walk softly but..............

  • From: "R. Steiner" <mobilegrmr@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Rbuffdogs ." <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:17:25 -0500

I've been on Facebook too much, keep looking to hit the "like" button :)

I agree with this 110%.  The use of the stick is part of the test of
nerves and mental strength. it is NOT about teaching a dog to accept
pain, in fact most dogs never receive a true hit.  The "hits" are
generally very glancing blows, nothing direct.  It's really about
testing their response to a threat.   Yes you can teach a dog to
accept it, but trust me if the dog doesn't "have it" then all the
training in the world will only take you so far, and when the pressure
is on the true temperament will come to the surface.  I've been there!
 Have had a couple of dogs wash out after showing weakness on the
stick hits.

I did have one awesome bicolor bitch years ago who, on her first ever
stick threat by a helper, ran up his body and latched on to the stick.
 He was quite shocked.....I wasn't!

--Regina


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Rbuffdogs . <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Evan
> The use of the stick is not to teach them not to be afraid.  Quite the
> contrary it, like a walking and standing
> gunshot test is used to show that they DO have good nerves and courage.
>  Dogs of excellent nerve and
> character do not need to be "taught" to be solid.  They simply ARE.
> It is not like the LLTT through which a dog or bitch can be doubled nor the
>  TC , which at this point is all but
> useless unless we start videotaping them again.   I would like to see all
> TCs videotaped and reviewed before
> a certificate of passing is given.   Too many are passing that should
> never.  It makes a true passing score
> worthless.    I doubt seriously we will ever
> do a TC again, until that issue is addressed.   But I digress.
>
> Personally,  in a perfect world, lol  I would like to see a standing and
> walking gunshot test for any Select dog/bitch entry at the Nationals, and
> done, at the Nationals.   So why would a dog be afraid???
>
> I have no idea, other than bad nerves.   There absolutely is no reason for
> them to be, unless perhaps you are speaking
> of returning MWDs that may have post traumatic stress from the battle
> field.
> Last time I checked not a single dog in the conformation ring in either
> American or German style shows
> has returned from a battlefield...although there are days when showing can
> almost feel that way, lol
> Kathy
>
>
>
> *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com
> <http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/>*
> *Updated: June 2013*
>
>
> *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBsCH. Victory's Leviathan **Kappo von
> Eisenwerk*
> *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef*
>
>  *"Victory...*Vires et honestas"
>
>
>
>> Maybe the stick doesn't hurt, but why do we have to teach a dog to not fear
>>  pain or being attacked?  I just want my dogs to have fun, come when
>> called,  and not bite me.
>>
>> I think my job in life is to protect and care for my dogs.
>>
>> Not that there is anything wrong with that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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