I find certain GSDs can be a throwback to past dogs as genetics can play a role in this. There are those GSDs of the past that can still impact the dogs today as they were very prepotent and carried it on. Now in the situation of a breeder mentioning their GSD goes back to a certain dog does not everyone. Do we not chose to buy or breed our dogs due to certain famous ones in the past we liked? I have my favorites I look for in my GSDs background as I know most people I know also do. The health and temperament will always be the most important thing to me and in this case the website had a video of a dog with good temperament with titles and OFA so didn't seem to be a backyard breeder. I would much rather see a breeder like this than some of the others out there mass producing designer colored dogs that are not health tested with unstable temperament. Theresa -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 2/2/14, Daphne <Daphne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks Theresa for the link - unfortunately one appearance of any dog in a pedigree would not actually make the progeny of nearly 95 years later a "direct" descendant nor would it make the dog from the "line" or "linebred." Breeders work very hard to develop "lines" - some that come to mind from the past (and not so past) are Bee Jays, Mi Noah, Richterbach, Covy Tucker Hills, Long Worth, Harpwood, Pedacres, and so on. These breeders worked for decades developing type and certain characteristics and many of them carefully mentored others to carry on their "lines." Personally I disagree with anyone who would intentionally try to use the hard work of someone else (without their permission) to foster their own agenda. It should not be about what someone else has done, but what you (the vernacular you) have done to preserve a particular breeders "line." Just because you have a dog that may trace back to say Alert of Mi Noah would that in and of itself entitle you to advertise you puppy 20 generations later as a "direct' descendant? I would hope not. Another reason why we do NOT sell ANY breed dogs outside our very Strict breeding program. We protect what lee Duncan, Jannettia Brodsgaard Propps and I have worked the last nearly 100 years to develop. Daphne Hereford Owner/Breeder Co-Owners/Breeders Kathy Carlton and Carol and Chelsea Riggins RIN TIN TIN Line Dogs www.HollywoodDogs.com Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: WHO IS BREEDING Here is one breeder that is... http://www.mcknightgermanshepherds.com/ Theresa ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================