In a message dated 9/23/09 2:12:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx writes: Therefore, since this was a FIRST (again in my memory), there should have been a strikingly different entry form for that specialty and/or national When there are multiple shows, such as a cluster, there are separate entry forms for each show. We should have done it that way as well. I know Rau only sends out the entry and we approve it before it goes to print. In the future we can consider this problem, and we should be able to cure it this time with help from the AKC. I don't buy the, "we can't change the rules because AKC won't allow it." The AKC does try to help clubs, they are responsive. You may not like the decision, but they will listen. We have a delegate. He is a strong willed man, and has a voice with the AKC. I would at least like to hear that someone picked up the phone and talked to the AKC. As a lawyer I am often told I can't do something. Then I do it. Maybe we need to learn to run the club that way. I have not noticed Gail or Tish to be bashful when something is needed. And, I know Carmen will try if requested. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================