[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Temperament: "man made" or genetics

  • From: "arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx" <arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: uwish@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:37:22 GMT

Echo, my soul mate, had a TERRIBLE temperament - shy.  After I bought him, and 
he started showing his shy, "fear biting" type tendencies, I recalled his 
father showed similar characteristics.  I was lucky, I spent hundreds of hours 
with Echo in obedience, socializing him, etc and he was able to over come his 
fear, shy temperament and by the time he was 7 people thought I was kidding 
when I told them about his early years.
Yukon, on the other hand, had everything going against him.  He was beaten, 
shot, tied to a tree with little or no shelter during a Manitoba winter, 
starved, and finally abandoned at an electric power plant (hydro).  Fortunately 
for him, and eventually me, the 54 pound, 30" at the shoulder GSD was returned 
to his breeder thanks to CKC's mandatory ID's.  Despite all that he went thru, 
he had a rock solid temperament with no hang-ups.  His original family was good 
to him, but they gave him away when he was about 9 months old "because he ate 
too much" - it was at the second home where the abuse took place.  If they had 
only returned him to his breeder he would have never suffered like he did.  The 
only reason we know what happened was because the original family acted as an 
intermediary between the abusers and the breeder when we got his registrations 
back.  I adopted Yukon when he was 18 months old and never regretted it for a 
single second.
Gayle & the Hooligans!
Ringer-Honey-Kelly-Mac-Slider-Bruiser
Waiting at the Bridge:
Andy-Abbey-Tasha-Tex-Echo-Yukon-JR-Too-Niki-Bo

-- Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A breeder friend and I were talking about temperament of the GSD today.  
We were talking about what correct temperament was according to the 
standard looking for an approachable, but aloof personality.  We talked 
about the outgoing "Golden Retriever" personality, the spooks, and then 
the aggressive and fear biters.  Quite a range of temperaments, I'd say.

I believe that a dog's temperament is determined by two factors.  #1 - 
his genetics, his parents and grandparents having a great deal of 
influence on his temperament.  And #2,  I also believe environment plays 
a big role in our dogs personalities as well.  If it's a genetic problem 
and you sell the dog into a good home, I believe he will still have a 
tendency to be what his genetics have dictated him to be.  I believe we 
have all owned at one time or another different degrees of the above 
named temperaments.  Some of the problem dogs you can work with and some 
can be trained to behave, or stand for examination.  But genetically 
they are born to be what they were meant to be and will pass this along 
to their progeny. 

On the other hand, a puppy can be born with a good temperament and put 
it into a bad home, one who locks it up in a crate or kennel all day, 
doesn't socialize it, mistreats him by abusing him and he can become shy 
or suspicious of people.  Or they may still like people, but are noise 
or object shy.  I don't think (but, I'm not sure), that if you breed 
this animal that he will pass along a shy temperament if his was induced 
by a bad environment.

I think when the public thinks of our GSD's as having mean and bad 
dispositions, they are not aware of how some of these dogs have been 
raised.  I also know first hand that a dog can be born with a love of 
people and having been neglected, still love people.  Also know of dogs 
who have been brought up in a kennel environment and haven't been 
anywhere and you take them and put them in a show and they're fine.  Go 
figure.  "Man made" or genetics?  Best,  Barbara Galasso



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