I have used pine shavings for puppies for YEARS - they eat it, they sniff it, they lick it, and so far no one has died - I have also used cedar shavings with the same results :) However, I wouldn't count on it to keep the run mud-free - though I do remember seeing someone's runs with years of pine shavings in it, and I didn't see any mud. Currently, I have decking down in most of the runs - that is the best, but of course, not cheap. When I have puppies, I usually use a dirt run with pine shavings in it, and replace it as needed. Today, I will rake ALL the soaking wet pine shavings out of the puppy run, and replace it with probably about 2 bags of new pine shavings, even knowing it will rain tomorrow and the next day, because today, right now, the sun is shining and it is 42 degrees and puppies should be out ! :) Iza Kabuska http://www.karizmashepherds.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Galasso" <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Pine Shavings > Hi everyone: So I just got "Amber" her new dog run. Finally! Only > problem is to figure out what to put on the ground. I used to have > cement runs, but I plan on selling this house, so I don't want anything > permanat on the ground, plus I don't want to put down anything that's > too expensive, so I don't want to go the stone route either. However, > I can't keep the grounds with the dirt. It's too muddy especially with > all the rain we just had here in New York. Then she tracks it into the > house. A friend of mine said he uses pine shavings in all his runs. I > wanted to know what everyone thought about using this, and your > experience with using it? Is it safe for puppies? Will she and the > pups try to eat it? How do you keep the runs clean after you've picked > up after them? Do you disinfect them? Thanks, Barbara > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================