[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: My opinion
- From: JANGSD@xxxxxxx
- To: lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:02:17 EDT
Laura,
We keep that puppy until he/she is older and can be evaluated properly.
At 8 weeks, that is too young to do the proper testing, they need to be
older. I hold them until we can take them in to see exactly what the problem
is and if it can be fixed. I had one with a PDA over the years and I fixed
him. He lived to be a great dog. I had several that had Tricuspid
Dysplsia (sp?) and they could not be treated and were symptom free. I
explained
to the new owners about this condition and they had to keep an eye on them.
If they ever developed symptoms, there was little hope for them, BUT they
had an 80 or 90% chance of living a normal life. I had no problem adopting
them out. And then of course the one puppy that did have a problem that
could not be fixed. I can't remember the name of her condition, but at the
time that it happened, Colorado state University was doing experiment
surgery on this condition and for $3,000 and the cost of the trip we could do
it. We opted not to. I did find out 5 years later the experimental surgery
was not successful. So we keep the puppies until we can make an exact
diagnosis and then go from there. As far as I am concerned that is the only
responsible thing you can do. You breed them, you must take responsibility
for them. Luckily this does not happen that often!!!
Janet
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In a message dated 5/28/2010 8:52:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
What do you guys do when your vet finds a puppy with a heart murmur? Put
it
down immediately? Wait and see if it clears-up? Just want to know what
how
most of you guys proceed.
Laura
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From: <JANGSD@xxxxxxx>
To: <grnram415@xxxxxxx>; <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
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Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:41 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: My opinion
Hi,
I would never let a puppy go to a new home without a vet check. I do the
vaccines myself. When I first started out breeding, I had a high school
student who wanted a puppy. His parents took him to several breeders to
make
an "educated" choice of which breeder to purchase the puppy from. This is
BEFORE I learned to take pups to the vet for a check up, so maybe 20 or
more years ago. He decided to purchase a puppy from us. He came and
picked
out his puppy and was sooo happy. Then a few days later, his father
called
and after they took the puppy to the vet, they found he had a heart
murmur. The family was devastated. They brought the puppy back, I
offered
them
another one or their money back, but the kid was too heart broken to have
another puppy. I did keep the puppy until he was old enough to be taken
to
a specialist and he had a problem that could not be fixed. He did have to
be put to sleep. The family did come back after they had grieved for
their
puppy and did purchase another puppy from me with my next litter, but
never again would I let another family go thru that kind of heart ache
with
out
a vet check.
As for picking up diseases, it a vet comes to your home, you would have to
have him bleach his shoes, etc before he walks in your home, so he could
just as easily bring parvo, etc to your litter. I bring my puppies to the
vet and yes, it is a pain, but they NEVER touch the floor at the vets.
They
are weighed on a portable scale that is disinfected before they are put on
it. Puppies are brought in one by one, we have a production line, but it
works and is safe and my vet knows that I won't allow them to touch the
floor at his office. After the visit, I then bleach my shoes before I
get
in
the van. Paranoid, yes!
I had to argue with one vet tech for an older puppy once that wanted me to
put him on the scale for big dogs, I said NO WAY. She said he had to be
weighed and they put dogs with Parvo in another room so the scale wouldn't
have Parvo on it. I told her she must be a mind reader then as sometimes
you bring in a dog/puppy that does not have the symptoms of Parvo, but a
few
days later is sick. I made her get a bleach mop and use it on the scale
before I put my puppy down. The whole waiting room heard us arguing.
This
was not my regular's vet's office. She was not happy!
Janet
_www.JanMarGsd.com_ (http://www.janmargsd.com/)
_www.PetsNaturalChoyce.com_ (http://www.petsnaturalchoyce.com/)
"An Online catalog featuring all-natural herbal and homeopathic remedies
for pets and the people who love them."
In a message dated 5/27/2010 2:05:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
grnram415@xxxxxxx writes:
My pups do not go the vet for their first shots. Many years ago, I did
this with every litter, until one litter got Parvo after the trip to the
vet's office. I now give all my puppy vaccines and worming. I don't let
pups
go to their new homes until 10weeks old. The first shots are at 6wks,
second at 9wks and first vet visit at least 72hrs after 2nd vaccine. My
vet
charges me $50.00 office visit and $7.00/pup for exam. This works well
for
me as the pups are examined by my vet within a couple days of going to
their new home and the new owner and their vet know this pup is healthy
when
they take them.
Laura
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