[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Line Breed/Cross breed - American/ German
- From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:50:02 +0000 (UTC)
Morgan.....if you come up with 64 grand, I can put in 1 grand and we can be
partners!....lol...great post, it reminds me of the biggest lie of all
lies....."We only breed to improve the breed"...........nothing wrong with that
statement, but it's disingenuous, we breed to WIN,, which is why certain lines
are bred to so often...if winners are being produced, other considerations take
a back seat...... easy to see the problems, not so easy to fix them, chances
are that I will never show again in the AKC ring...this does not mean I don't
want an outstanding championship quality GSD...I am in love with the movement
and the look......but health, temperament, and longevity MUST trump everything
else......like I said yesterday...I want it all!.....I'd love to go to Germany
in search of "sperm" to bring back....has anyone done this?,,,,,import
sperm?....why not......we'll see German Shepherd Dogs from all over the world
in 2013.....I plan to carry some rubber gloves, a syringe, and some green tribe
with me in Philadelphia!......FB
----- Original Message -----
From: "MORGAN LEWIS" <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "gsd showlist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:24:55 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Line Breed/Cross breed - American/ German
�From a well informed Breeder/Owner:
�OFTEN, SOME �� People, tend to� BREED �to the�� TOP AMERICAN
BRED ,�WINNING� DOGS,� REGARDLESS� OF HEALTH OR TEMPERAMENT�
PROBLEMS...AS LONG AS THEY ARE PLEASING CONFORMATION-WISE...
EVEN IF THEY COME FROM THE SAME� BLOODLINES, IN THE BACKGROUND, OVER AND
OVER!!!! AD INFINTUM WITH THE SAME HEALTH PROBLEMS, ETC. ETC.
� ANY PARTICULAR� LINE, OR LINES, �TEND TO DOMINATE THE BREED, IF IT�
IS PRODUCING SHOW WINNERS..�
�OFTEN, AND �SADLY, �LITTLE REGARD IS PAID TO THE�� "FUTURE"��
�HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE GSD BREED IN THE USA, AS
�LONG AS THAT LINE PRODUCES CHAMPIONS...�
OUTCROSSING, SOONER OR LATER, �IS A MUST, IF A LINE IS GOING TO MAINTAIN
HEALTH AND VIGOR AND VITALITY, ETC...�
�
TODAY, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE WEALTHY ENOUGH� ( AND, OR KNOWLEDGABLE ENOUGH
ABOUT THE WEST GERMAN SHOW LINES,) TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER AND BUY THE TOP
DOGS�....
AS WAS POSSIBLE IN THE� OLD DAYS... BUT IF SUCH A ONE COMES OVER, WE SHOULD
SERIOUSLY CONSIDER� HIS OR HER VALUE TO OUR BREEDING PROGRAM.. SOMETIMES ONE
WILL WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND SOMETIMES NOT...
� THERE� ARE WAYS TO LEARN AND EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE BEST OF SOME OF
THE� MAGNIFICENT� WEST GERMAN� DOGS...
� BUT IT TAKES DEDICATION AND�" LOTS OF MONEY " !!!!!!��� TO BE ABLE
TO� PURCHASE�� ONE THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU ARE SEEKING IN THE�
BREED..AND THAT IS IF THE� OWNER WILL SELL THAT DOG, AT ALL!!� THERE WAS
A� YOUNG MALE I WAS VERY� INTERESTED IN, PEDIGREE AND�� VERY� STRONG,
CONTINUOUS �FAMILY �TYPE AND TEMPERAMENT AND STRONG HEALTHY�
BLOODLINES...�
BUT, SADLY, �I DIDN'T HAVE�$ 65,000.00�� IN EURO'S,� TO BUY HIM�.
...
�MOST OF THESE TOP QUALITY WEST GERMAN�� SHEPHERDS, �ARE ALWAYS
DOMINATE FOR THEIR TYPE, SO YOU MUST BREED AN AMERICAN BRED THAT IS� SUITABLE
CONFORMATION, TEMPERAMENT, CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE, ETC... TO ACHIEVE� THE
� TYPE, YOU ARE SEEKING TO BREED. YOU MUST KNOW WHAT YOU WANT AND WHY YOU
WANT IT... AND HOW TO KEEP THE TYPE....GOING FORWARD... AND HAVE THE MONEY TO
AFFORD THE ENTIRE� OPERATION... INCLUDING� THE PURCHASE OF FUTURE BREEDING
PARTNERS THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR HIM,� OR HER, ETC...� IT ISN'T EASY..
�
IN THE OLD DAYS WE HAD MANY� PEOPLE WITH��LOTS OF �MONEY� AND THEY
OFTEN FORMED�� BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS.. LIKE THE BID-SCONO GROUP,�AND
�ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THE PURCHASE OF AN OUTSTANDING� WEST� GERMAN�
�BREED REPRESENTATIVE...TO BRING INTO THE USA....
AND� WE ALSO� OFTEN HAD� A� BREEDER, �WHO WAS WELL-CONNECTED WITH THE
GERMAN BREEDER'S AND� COULD NEGOTIATE..
�. I DO NOT� THINK MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE SUM OF� $ 500,000.00��
IS NOT CONSIDERED�" THAT EXPENSIVE", FOR A� SEIGER SHOW, �TOP� WINNING
WEST GERMAN MALE...AND THERE ARE OFTEN STRINGS ATTACHED, SUCH AS , SAID DOG,
HAVING TO BE RETURNED TO GERMANY TO STAND AT STUD THERE, PERIODICALLY, ETC.
ETC. ETC.�
� JUST A THOUGHT... FROM ONE WHO LIVED� AND BRED WEST GERMAN� LINES,
�CROSSED WITH �AMERICAN LINES VERY SUCCESSFULLY, IN THOSE EARLY 1950 TIMES
AND� STILL AT IT...�WE SHOULD NOT SHUT OUR EYES TO ANY POSSIBILITY TO
IMPROVE THIS GSD BREED...
OUTCROSSING,� PERIODICALLY,��TO ME, IT IS �THE ONLY WAY TO GO
SUCCESSFULLY �FORWARD WITH THE�� GSD� BREED..����
�
Morgan� Lewis, RPh.
Member GSDCA
President Last Hope of� Georgia 501c3
"So Much to Do, So Little Time"
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