We couldn't be happier to have Lance in our American pedigrees, who wouldn't be happy? We are doing outcrosses not to make Lance disappear, quite the opposite. We've found going out brings back in to the progeny so much of what was awesome about Lance. Too much of the same wonderful thing and you lose what you are trying to capture. We have experienced going out for a generation and coming back in brings back the wonderful Am. traits we love so much and also brings with it so much of the wonderful aspects of the German traits as well. Please, don't start on a jag about crosses, I'm not starting that discussion here. I'm just saying we love Lance and are trying to keep him going! We love Lance and what he's done for the breed. The foundation he has put down is undeniable. To do him justice, we need to preserve him carefully for future generations. Edie Hallmark German Shepherds 'The Best of Both Worlds' Top American And German Lines www.gsdhallmark.homestead.com/index.html<http://www.gsdhallmark.homesteadcom/index.html> ----- Original Message ----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx<mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Lance and why he produced In a message dated 11/27/2005 7:10:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, CARALAND@xxxxxxx<mailto:CARALAND@xxxxxxx> writes: Lance was booked so we bred to Arry who BTW was a real hunk of a male Arry was sired by an import. As was Lance. Remember that Lance was an out cross, and had a champion sister, Lonnie. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/<http://www.asgardgsd.com/>) http://www.asgardgsd.com/<http://www.asgardgsd.com/> Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxx>. VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org<http://www.showgsd.org/> ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================