What a relative question. If my dogs does not win classes and handlers don't want to show my dog and judges tell me he/she has lovely pigment, I might be smart enough to take the hint and look again. If my dog is entered in shows that don't make majors, or my dog gets several Reserves at majors and my handler says take the dog home for a few months, but send the dog back for shows later, I probably will. If I show my dog to people and they say ask a judge over and over or ask a handler over and over, maybe they are trying to be polite and not tell me that my dog does not have a chance in %%%. If people who see my dog tell me that my dog ought to finish, I gotta consider making ht effort no matter what that means. We have to be willing to ask other people what they think. We also have to be willing to consider what they tell us. I was told over and over that my bitch needed more rear. I still don't really agree, but that goes to my interpretation of the standard. What people want to see and what wins has more rear than my bitch. She may yet finish in the all breeds, and she may not. But I bred for more rear, and to maintain her front which I do feel is one of the best. MHO of my own dog. But I bought her, so I had to select her. So if I make it to St Louis, tell me what you think of the pups who will be with me as much as possible. sheila Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Know when to hold them: For what length of time would you show a dog that you are campaigning towards it's championship? 10 shows? 50 shows? What is your limit before you...............Know when to fold them: When do you decide that the dog will no longer be shown? Do you believe that every dog that is shown should finish no matter what.........to help the stud dog owner get his dogs ROM? The brood bitch her ROM? Is the title of CH in front of your dogs name so important to merit showing it all over the country and changing handlers 4-5 times? How much money should it cost to finish a dogs championship? Where do you draw the line? He/she might be good, but is it really good enough? Curious me, Barbara -- Barbara J. Galasso CHIEFTAINS GERMAN SHEPHERDS Visit my website at http://chieftainsgermanshepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================