Perhaps we need to start making more of an issue about it? Or maybe filming and "You tubing" a judge showing a complete lack of either knowledge for the rules, or ethics, might change things.... Perhaps if people think they will be held up to scrutiny by the fancy, or having names published in BIG print in the breed magazines , when they are suspended.....just maybe they will think twice. Until then,these things do go on...and it casts a bad light on the breed and the sport., and it is KILLING entries. Sad to say. Kathy Tank ************************************************************************************ What an interesting topic--I went to bed too early last night! LOL Kathy, I agree with you completely. This is exactly what has made me stay (selectively) away from specialty shows. I've found that this DOES NOT HAPPEN as extensively with the all-rounders. How courageous for the original poster to let us know of this! It happens all the time, but no one writes of it! Penny in NY ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================