The actual reasons are only known by mother nature. It is interesting that several GSD females were turned over by a puppymiller to breed rescue and ended up whelping large litters. When the rescue received them, they had to be only a couple of weeks pregnant. One bitch was cleared, by ultrasound, as not being pregnant. This bitch was HW positive and received two HW treatments PLUS all of her vaccinations, including rabies. She went on to whelp a large litter of healthy pups six or seven weeks later. And, how many dogs have whelped litters after being found almost starved to death? Or, seriously injured? Some tings are just hard to explain. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: foxhavengs <foxhavengs@xxxxxxx> To: patsgsdpups <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx>; barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2011 1:16 am Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fwd: Breeding issues, overcoming the problems. I wonder if could be stress. With the hard times we are going through with the esession and everyone is being effect. We all know shepherds clue in our energy o if were or the house hold is stress it could be they may be stress. Just a hought. his why I think it could be stress. A bitch was breed she started to and had ll the sighs. A adult with 3 kids who can be alittle wild untop of dealing with heir parents divorce, so everyone was stress. One week after they moved in she as no longer showing and had sighs she was in welp. She was breed again after he house hold was back to normal and had 11 puppies. lease don't attack its just a thought and jmo. enise Fox oxhavengs ome of GCH.Foxhaven Good Girl Gone Bad of Windfall (AKA Rihanna) ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- rom: Pat Evans <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx> ender: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ate: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:44:24 o: barbara17236@xxxxxxx<barbara17236@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> eply-To: patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fwd: Breeding issues, overcoming the problems. t amazes me how many unwanted puppies are made accidentally in a ackyard-whelped without xrays and human help-and we breeders generally have a epro vet! at Evans n Dec 16, 2011, at 8:21 PM, barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote: > Reabsorbed litters are usually due to low progesterone level during > pregnancy. he pregnancy cannot be maintained unless the progesterone level stays up. Many reeders, of various breeds, are having to test the progesterone level during regnancy and supplementing as needed. Another thing to check is the thyroid level. Bitches who fail to swell during heir season can be low in thyroid. Also, failure to conceive and carry a iiter can be due to low thyroid. Now, I am not talking about low thyroid as in elow the normal range. My repro vet likes to see 2.0 or higher in the reeding bitch. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Kay Springer <showgsd@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2011 9:14 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fwd: Breeding issues, overcoming the problems. From: Kay Springer <showgsd@xxxxxxx> Date: December 16, 2011 6:00:48 PM PST To: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Breeding issues, overcoming the problems. Out here on the west coast, I have not heard that much about problems with dogs that won't breed. To date, my stud dog has produced puppies from AIs, TCIs, surgical implants using shipped fresh semen and natural breedings....all done for various reasons. I do required progesterone testing on the bitches that come to him along with the other tests. And not the in house progesterone testing. Recently, a bitch came to be bred and the progesterone tests showed that she was not ready to breed until the 19th day! Before she had been successfully bred on the 11th day. My vet said everything looked good so we will see if she conceives based on her progesterone level. Yes, some of the bitches have missed but the vast majority have had puppies. On the other hand, when breeding one of my bitches, I have not had good luck with using frozen semen that has been shipped to me and know several people who also have not had good luck using frozen. One issue I do have is breeding a stud artificially because he can not physically do the job. For example, breeding a dog that has such bad DM or structural issues that he physically can not do it. That makes me crazy!!!! I have experienced & heard a lot about bitches reabsorbing litters. The repro vet that I use told me that from the seminars she attends across the US, the repro vets are seeing an unusual amount of bitches reabsorbing litters. This is not breed specific so they are thinking environmental issues. Kay Springer www.showboatgsd.com Home of Multi BISS & Multi Group Winning Ch. Rohan's Reward TC,CGC,HT,RE,CDX, CHIC (h,e,t,h) DM Clear 80 BOBs - #5 & #6 GSD 2009 On Dec 16, 2011, at 3:56 PM, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx wrote: > Those who attended the after show program at the VA shows last week > heard > about the problems, and unfortunately it seems to be becoming a real > problem, of breeding in the GSD breed. > > From males that wont breed naturally, to bitches who, regardless of > progesterone and smear results, simply wont swell and cant be bred > other than > artificially, to breeders who have absolutely no luck with Artificial > Insemination. > > I am curious to hear how many are experiencing this. According to > Helen > Gleason, a top reproductive specialist told her that well over 70% > of the > breeding stock is suffering from one issue or the other. > > Comments? > > * Ileana * ===========================================================================OST s Copyrighted 2011. 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