I did not say that IF doubling using animals occurs that it is not an appearance of impropriety. But come on folks, tell the people so and to stop it and move on. If you see this happen someone from the club/parent club or the judge should just say please stop and that this is does not look good to outsiders. If they do not stop THEN do something about it. There are TONS of appearances of improprieties at shows, some more blatent than others. I know for a fact that we have lost conformation people due to the appearances of improprieties that occur such as politics, dyeing etc. So, start calling everyone out! Jeff ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================