[ SHOWGSD-L ] All breed/ Specialty & personal choices....
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
- To: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:46:17 -0800
Don't Ya' All just hate it when someone like Ileanna comes on line and makes
sense!!
<G>
It amazes me that so many think it's a real CHARACTER FLAW if someone else
doesn't
like
the same venue they do. We have to stop taking everything as a PERSONAL
AFFRONT!!!
When did this thread become a "blame game" for 1 pt. shows??...or proving our
dog is
good because it won at one venue or another?? GEEEZ......we're going to bury
ourselves
with infighting while both venues are failing!! This is a waste of time!
I promise not to kill Ed Hill or Paul Root for their knowledge and choice in
feeding
raw diets....if they don't hang me because I don't show at All Breeds. I LIKE
almost
all other Breeds......I just don't care to watch them show!!! I also love
almost all
Mutt
dogs.......just don't show them to me on a table........and once around a ring.
<G>
I like dogs....big dogs, little dogs, fluffy dogs, fat dogs, short dogs, tall
dogs...but not
all dogs showing.....nor their standards...nor their coming and going....nor
their
trims.
Please, don't anyone else try to convince me I can learn more about GSD thru
other
Breeds & All Breeds. We all still have a lot to learn.... but for what it
would cost
us to attend an All Breed show all the time......I can go to the National to
learn!!
<G>.
I loved MIKE, and LANCE and love SCOOP....and I'm so pleased they all won big at
an All Breed show......but that is certainly not what I will remember them
for.....
{ :o)
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
From: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Thursday, December
15,
2005 6:49 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] All breed and Specialty points are the same
> We have spent a considerable amount of time arguing back and forth over all
> breeds vs specialty. What a waste of time.
>
> Fact: Any German Shepherd Dog without a disqualifying fault is eligible to
> be in any show ring. And we see them.
>
> Fact: There are lots of GSD registered every year.
>
> Fact: We as a breed club have the most amount of specialties every year.
>
> Fact: There is an all breed show happening every weekend within driving
> distance, far more than specialties.
>
> Fact: Most people showing dogs have to work for a living. Money IS a
> factor.
>
> Fact: When you get the CH certificate, the points are all the same,
> regardless of ring.
>
> Now, when you consider all those facts, it becomes obvious that all these
> registered dogs have to be showing somewhere. So, you will find many people
> will show at all breeds because they are close, they are frequent, and they
> want to. Many other will show at specialties because they believe this to be
> the best ring for their dog. You will hear only pretty non moving dogs are
> seen at the all breeds. So, by default, only ugly moving dogs are at the
> specialties?......Careful there.
>
> Ideally any winning GSD can and does win at both rings. I have had those
> dogs. And lots of listers have them also. Ask anyone about Mystique, Scoop,
> and Kellie records at the all breeds.
>
> Our local breed club combined the spring specialty with an all breed club,
> for a total of 3 shows in one weekend. We had a huge ring, and a specialty
> judge. Ideal conditions. We thought so. Our entry was only 1 point on each
> side. What a waste.
>
> Some judges like to do one breed only. Others like to branch out. I am one
> of those. I like other breeds, find the working group and the hound group
> very interesting. And have learned to appreciate our GSDs better because of
> that. GSDs remain number one in my heart, and always will. But I believe that
> other breeds have their merits also, and I want to learn more about them.
> This
> doesn't make me better than those judges who prefer to do one breed only. We
> have a difference of opinion, but neither one of us is either right or
> wrong. It just is.
>
> So, stop banging your heads against the wall and buy and breed those correct
> dogs that can win at both ring.
>
> Truth is until better dogs start coming at the all breed rings, specialists
> will keep complaining about those "walkers" all breed dogs wining. So, if
> your dogs are so good, take them to the all breeds. It is also truth that
> the
> all breeders will keep complaining about those ugly flying dogs at the
> specialties. Then bring your beautiful dogs to the specialties.
>
> Other than that, I feel this whole thread is a waste of energy.
>
> JMO
>
> Ileana
>
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