[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ADMIN: Apology to The List
- From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
- To: ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:59:26 -0500 (EST)
Hi Sara:
I hear the same "structure" and "movement" comments at the UKC shows I attend.
I get wonderful comments from the judges about having sound rears and
movement.
I also get lots of people, from other breeds, who just swear that all of those
"hock-walking" GSDs have to be dysplastic. But, after I explain that the
angulation really does not affect the hips, and that it is turn of stifle that
is angled, they understand. Actually, my best comparison is that if rear
angulation and HD were connected, how come the GSD is not the number 1 OFA HD
breed? Or, number 2. Or, number 3. Or, ..... That really gets them
thinking.
I love a moderately angled GSD. And, I believe in BOTH rings, the GSD has
improved in the rear over the last few years.
I can assure you this, Specialty vs all-breed, issue is in almost every AKC
breed. Take a look at the UKC Labrador (mostly field type) and the AKC
Labrador (English type). Two different types of dogs but the same breed.
I hope you won't give up.
Barb Hively - PA
DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
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From: Sara Minsk <ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx>
To: terraf <terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: GStiefferm <GStiefferm@xxxxxxx>; stormy435 <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>; showgsd-l
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 7:52 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ADMIN: Apology to The List
I may add...
Every show I go to, EVERY single exhibitor I talk to is disgusted by the GSD.
VERY single one of them regardless of what breed they have. It's hard for me to
isten too but I have a hard time defending the showring dog. It's not normal
or dogs to walk like that. I don't remember the GSD I loved as a kid walking
ike that. It's disgusting. Why do their legs hit the ground? They look so
obbly and weird.
I hear at our obedience class or at a nosework demonstration or while out for a
alk.
Why is it that EVERY dog person on the planet (except the specialty GSD
breeder)
s so sad that the breed has been ruined? Why can't fellow GSD breeders see it?
n fact, at my last UKC show (I started there to get us ready for AKC) the judge
ven commented to me on having a "normal" GSD and it was "nice to see". :-(
It really breaks my heart.
Plus, I see GSDs at shows shaking, tail tucked, looking around frantically.
It's
ust not proper character.
Now, I don't mean to come on here and have my first posts be so negative. I am
rying to learn. So, please help me understand .....
Does anyone know when the hind end thing started? I know it wasn't always like
his? Does it give a bigger gait or something? Does anyone wish they could go
ack to breeding normal dogs but maybe they think they won't win in ring
nymore?
Does anyone else feel our show ring atmosphere is intimidating to a new show
ing exhibitor? Don't some of you wish people could show their own dogs without
he antics?
I apologize again.
Sara Minsk
n Dec 6, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Terra Fairburn wrote:
> Great Post Gail. And we wonder why people are leaving the breed and not
exhibiting in the GSD ring!
Terra Fairburn
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From: <GStiefferm@xxxxxxx>
To: <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:37 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ADMIN: Apology to The List
> I would certainly hope so. And I believe those listed are not on this
> list and need an APOLOGY sent to them. Sad to think who was listed to
> receive
> that e-mail.. ANOTHER sad day on this list.
>
>
> Gail
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