Thanks you Carolyn, Chetan and Stephen,I really value this kind of online information, pondering, and commenting.
Especially as I delve into asking a few more questions I think it might be important to include Doc. T into this conversation, to have some direct sharing so that more may be understood. If the group agrees, then I suggest we make an introduction to the topic to doc. T and continue our conversation. tpetti@xxxxxxxxxxx
Chetan, I have a couple of questions that might help push this discussion to create the kind of outcome that would achieve our proposed goal - to have a positive impact..
First I wonder if you have read the interview that Ashley Sparks did with Doc. T, in the AR Summer journal on the new website. http://www.alternateroots.org/index.cfm? organization_id=114§ion_id=1664&page_id=6910
If you haven't had a chance, I recommend it, so that we may better have a chance to talk directly about intentions, perceptions, and personal realities.
"...explicitly stating the value of building and preserving our community" "...as community-based artists, have a responsibility to present them ( our work) in a way that ultimately builds community."
I really value these intentions. I have learned that some times a way to figure out what would be the positive way to react, is spoken to by looking at the negative. For instance, if you do an exercise where one person talks about something that means a lot to them and the other person purposely doesn't listen, then you can start to have a conversation about what that person was doing and what the person could do to have a different affect.
You don't have to answer the question I am about to pose, but I wonder if it is possible to share, what it was exactly about the artwork that you witnessed and the way it was handled afterwards that was particularly painful?
I think this is important because TCP is performing again that the AM this year.
Sincerely, HopeNature runs on sunlight. Nature uses only the energy it needs. Nature fits form to function. Nature recycles everything. Nature rewards cooperation. Nature banks on diversity. Nature demands local expertise. Nature curbs excesses from within.
On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:08 PM, c talwalkar wrote:
This is a good discussion. Here's a quick reply -- my one cent's worth, if you will.I agree with Hope that the RSC principles could be refined to be more like the Hannover Principles. Right now the RSC principles seem like definitions more than design, process, or behavioral guidelines.One substantive addition I would like to see in the RSC principles is something that recognizes more explicitly our interdependence as a community, and perhaps our desire to preserve that kind of connection. Perhaps the concept of "partnership" can be tweaked, or another item added to the list?I think explicitly stating the value of building and preserving our community would offer us some guidance on how to deal with things like The Conciliation Project which, when presented as stand-alone pieces, can leave the fabric of the community more torn than before. I'm not suggesting that we make potentially hurtful presentations taboo, only that we, as community-based artists, have a responsibility to present them in a way that ultimately builds community. The way things happened last year was akin to having someone tear off a scab and walk off.While I agree that it is not at all uncommon for artists to intentionally open wounds, I would argue that it is unethical for us, as community-based artists, to do so without steps to bring the community back together and leave it at least as whole as before. To do otherwise is to risk serving the cause of destruction more than transformation.That's it for now. I regret I won't be at this year's AM to continue the discussion. I am saving time for an extended road trip with a visiting relative starting mid-August, and will need the weeks until then to finish up a couple of projects here. Needless to say, I'll miss our unique community in the North Carolina hills.Peace, Chetan --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Stephen Clapp <stephen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Stephen Clapp <stephen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [rsc] Re: Principles To: rsc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 1:04 PM Hello RSC, Thanks Hope for your emails. I wanted to also send to the group the Principles as were posted at the Gathering in MD. From the conversation about the principles not being quite principles, the following were articulated as ³principles² of working in community defining principles as ³rules of conduct; laws, basic truths² Power Power is shared among all (willing) members of a group. Partnership True partnership must be equitable; Equitable partnership can exist when all entities involved treat each other as peers/equals. Dialogue Open dialogue is essential; Active listening and honest response is imperative for open dialogue. Transformation Individual/personal transformation can lead to community transformation and social change. Aesthetics We recognize and acknowledge the aesthetics of beauty, truth and justice in our work. Bob also articulated a definition of organizational principles (sorry I don¹t have in my notes) Bob...can you recall this? Peace. Stephen On 7/25/08 11:09 AM, "Hope Clark" <hopeclark@xxxxxxx> wrote:Dear RSC, I came across the principles below today and Ithought of you, while I wasworking to create a "green" brochure aboutour work on a truck bed exhibit forSunEdison. The Hannover Principles are on sustainability. One of the things that came up in the MD Gathering wasto look closer at theRSC principles and determine whether they areprinciples or not.I thought some of these might create a good model. Let me know what you think. Hope Hannover Principles 1. Insist on the rights of humanity and nature toco-exist in a healthy,supportive, diverse and sustainable condition. 2. Recognize interdependence. The elements of humandesign interact with anddepend upon the natural world, with broad and diverseimplications at everyscale. Expand design considerations to recognize evendistant effects.3. Respect relationships between spirit and matter.Consider all aspects ofhuman settlement including community, dwelling,industry and trade in terms ofexisting and evolving connections between spiritualand materialconsciousness. 4. Accept responsibility for the consequences ofdesign decisions upon humanwell-being, the viability of natural systems and theirright to co-exist.5. Create safe objects of long-term value. Do notburden future generationswith requirements for maintenance or vigilantadministration of potentialdanger due to careless creation of products, processesor standards.6. Eliminate the concept of waste. Evaluate andoptimize the full life-cycleof products and processes, to approach the state ofnatural systems, in whichthere is no waste. 7. Rely on natural energy flows. Human design should,like the living world,derive their creative forces from perpetual solarincome. Incorporate thisenergy efficiently and safely for responsible use. 8. Understand the limitations of design. No humancreation lasts forever anddesign does not solve all problems. Those who createand plan should practicehumility in the face of nature. Treat nature as amodel and mentor, not as aninconvenience to be evaded or controlled. 9. Seek constant improvement by sharing of knowledge.Encourage direct andopen communication between colleagues, patrons,manufacturers and users tolink long-term sustainable considerations with ethicalresponsibility, andre-establish the integral relationship between naturalprocesses and humanactivity. The Hannover Principles should be seen as a livingdocument committed to thetransformation and growth in the understanding of ourinterdependence withnature, so that they may adapt as our knowledge of theworld evolves.Hope Clark Interpret Green Dynamic media for built environments and landscapes Project Coordinator office: 215 482 6600 ext 233 fax: 215 482 0600 mobile: 917 442 9424 http://homepage.mac.com/hopeclark/iMovieTheater11.html Intercultural Service, Leadership and ManagementMasters CandidateThe School for International Training